# Expiration timer sometimes fails **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-Topic\ **Created:** [April 24, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/expiration-timer-sometimes-fails/121327 "2021-04-24T18:21:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 8
**Author:** ![OMR](https://community.openhab.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/94ad74/32.png) [@OMR](https://community.openhab.org/u/OMR)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/expiration-timer-sometimes-fails/121327/8 "2021-04-24T18:49:17Z")
More from the guru 🙂 > [@Expire Binding - Not Expiring](https://community.openhab.org/t/expire-binding-not-expiring/110360/3): > > events.log does not include Item Updates. But based on the description, it sounds like the Item is being updated once per half hour. It is not unusual for bindings to update Items on a set polling period or periodically if the device reports it’s current state or the like. In fact, many users use this fact to find out when a device has stopped reporting using the Expire binding. You can create a Rule that triggers when the Item receives an update to confirm (in OH 3 look at the events feed in t… --- _[View the full topic](https://community.openhab.org/t/expiration-timer-sometimes-fails/121327)._