Flood/Water Sensors that work

chilump · September 18, 2019, 10:46pm

I have a couple of zwave Aeon Labs water sensors. I am able to include them, create an item and add to my sitemap within Openhab but I cant seem to get the sitemap to display a status once I wet the sensor.
I’ve read all the related threads on the forum and I haven’t had much success troubleshooting. I’ve looked through the supported devices list as well with really no success of supported devices.

I’m open to purchasing a new water sensor.
Has anyone had success with a paticular brand? I prefer zwave but i’m open to others.

Bruce_Osborne · September 18, 2019, 11:14pm

If you post more details here (configuration & debug logs) we may be able to help you get the Aeon sensors working.

Gad_Ofir · September 19, 2019, 5:03am

for cheap water sensor i am using 433mhz , thay are very cheap and are getting the job done , remmber you just need them once year or hopffuly never! same for Smoke
Sonoff RF Bridge 12$ flashed
and each sesnor is somthing like 4$ for smoke it is somthing like 8$
thay are very low power, and bettry will last for a long time
but remmber thay will transmit/ report only if there is leak
there is not status reports , like in Zwave

chris · September 19, 2019, 7:04am

There should not be a problem using the Aeon sensors. If you have a problem, it would be useful to provide debug logs as Bruce mentioned, but also please tell us what the sensor is, and what version of OH and what version of the ZWave binding you are using.

Maximo · September 19, 2019, 8:22am

I have been running two Everspring Water Sensors for a few years now, working very well. Have you added your controller node to the association group that reports back, usually Group ID 1.

chilump · September 19, 2019, 10:20pm

Ok thanks guys. Im a little new.
I need to figure out how to pull down the logs.
I’ll post this weekend
Thanks for your help!

Bruce_Osborne · September 19, 2019, 10:36pm

See " When things don’t go as planned"

chilump · September 20, 2019, 12:14am

@Bruce_Osborne you saved me hours of searching for this!
I really appreciate it. Logs and other details coming soon

Bruce_Osborne · September 20, 2019, 12:24am

You are welcome. If you want to see if there is anything obvious try the log viewer.

https://www.cd-jackson.com/index.php/openhab/zwave-log-viewer

chilump · September 20, 2019, 1:01am

@Bruce_Osborne One more question i was able to enable zwave log debugging via the console but I cant find openhab.log file. I followed BKHobby instructions for installing openhab on my raspberry pi.

chilump · September 20, 2019, 1:57am

Hi below are my logs.
The last device on the list is what I see when I press the zwave button. Nothing happens when I put the leads in water and nothing happens when I press the wakeup button.

Openhab 2
Raspberry pi, installed exactly like BKHobby on youtube recommends.
AeonLabs DSB45-ZWUS water sensor
I install bindings via visual studio, not sure the version installed for zwave.

Thanks for your help

[21:45:31] openhabian@openHABianPi:~$ tail -f /var/log/openhab2/openhab.log -f / var/log/openhab2/events.log
==> /var/log/openhab2/openhab.log <==
2019-09-18 19:54:21.501 [WARN ] [sitemap.internal.SitemapProviderImpl] - Filenam e default.sitemap does not match the name sitemap_name of the sitemap - plea se fix this as you might see unexpected behavior otherwise.
2019-09-18 20:26:50.526 [WARN ] [sitemap.internal.SitemapProviderImpl] - Filenam e default.sitemap does not match the name sitemap_name of the sitemap - plea se fix this as you might see unexpected behavior otherwise.
2019-09-18 20:26:50.673 [WARN ] [sitemap.internal.SitemapProviderImpl] - Filenam e default.sitemap does not match the name sitemap_name of the sitemap - plea se fix this as you might see unexpected behavior otherwise.
2019-09-19 00:00:30.181 [INFO ] [thome.binding.astro.internal.job.Job] - Schedul ed Astro event-jobs for thing astro:moon:local
2019-09-19 00:00:30.206 [INFO ] [thome.binding.astro.internal.job.Job] - Schedul ed Astro event-jobs for thing astro:sun:local
2019-09-19 06:53:00.052 [INFO ] [clipse.smarthome.model.script.Lights] - Outdoor Lights turn off at Sunrise
2019-09-19 09:59:06.391 [INFO ] [io.openhabcloud.internal.CloudClient] - Disconn ected from the openHAB Cloud service (UUID = 1c8e2fb1-8733-4bb2-a705-bdd8c9a8425 4, base URL = http://localhost:8080)
2019-09-19 09:59:08.536 [INFO ] [io.openhabcloud.internal.CloudClient] - Connect ed to the openHAB Cloud service (UUID = 1c8e2fb1-8733-4bb2-a705-bdd8c9a84254, ba se URL = http://localhost:8080)
2019-09-19 19:09:00.072 [INFO ] [clipse.smarthome.model.script.Lights] - Outdoor Lights turned on at Sunset
2019-09-19 20:51:37.438 [WARN ] [shd.server.session.ServerSessionImpl] - excepti onCaught(ServerSessionImpl[openhab@/127.0.0.1:41892])[state=Opened] InterruptedB yTimeoutException: null

==> /var/log/openhab2/events.log <==
2019-09-19 21:24:45.327 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - Basement_Stairs_Light pre dicted to become OFF
2019-09-19 21:24:55.569 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘USB_PlugInSwitch’ r eceived command OFF
2019-09-19 21:24:55.590 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - USB_PlugInSwitch predicte d to become OFF
2019-09-19 21:25:08.437 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘USB_PlugInSwitch’ r eceived command ON
2019-09-19 21:25:08.455 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - USB_PlugInSwitch predicte d to become ON
2019-09-19 21:25:08.465 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - USB_PlugInSwitch changed from OFF to ON
2019-09-19 21:34:40.580 [me.event.ThingUpdatedEvent] - Thing ‘zwave:device:6166a 925:node29’ has been updated.
2019-09-19 21:36:26.182 [me.event.ThingUpdatedEvent] - Thing ‘zwave:device:6166a 925:node19’ has been updated.
2019-09-19 21:38:23.826 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - KitchenTable_Light change d from ON to OFF
2019-09-19 21:38:25.209 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - KitchenTable_Light change d from OFF to ON
2019-09-19 21:46:11.233 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘Bathroom’ received command ON
2019-09-19 21:46:11.255 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - Bathroom predicted to become ON
2019-09-19 21:46:11.279 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - Bathroom changed from 0 to 100
2019-09-19 21:46:12.900 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - Bathroom changed from 100 to 42
2019-09-19 21:46:37.570 [me.event.ThingUpdatedEvent] - Thing ‘zwave:device:6166a925:node19’ has been updated.
2019-09-19 21:47:03.608 [me.event.ThingUpdatedEvent] - Thing ‘zwave:device:6166a925:node19’ has been updated.

Bruce_Osborne · September 20, 2019, 5:51am

Use code fences

chilump · September 22, 2019, 1:07am

Hi. I think I got the code fences in order.

MY SITEMAP
""sitemap default label= “My Home” {
Frame label=“Garage” {

Switch item=NicGarageDoorSensor label="Nicola Garage Door" icon="garagedoor"  
Switch item=WillGarageDoorSensor label="Willie Garage Door" icon="garagedoor"
}

Frame label="Water Sensors" {

Switch item=TankWaterSense label="Hot Water Tank Sensor" icon="water"
Switch item=SumpAlarmFlood label="Sump Pump Hot Water Tank" icon="water" 

}

}
“”

“”
SITEMAP
==> /var/log/openhab2/openhab.log <==
2019-09-21 09:42:19.121 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:42:20.189 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:45:21.059 [WARN ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Configuration model ‘default.sitemap’ has errors, therefore ignoring it: [1,24]: missing RULE_STRING at ‘{’

2019-09-21 09:46:14.865 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:47:15.051 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:47:35.811 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
“”

""ITEMS
==> /var/log/openhab2/events.log <==
2019-09-21 09:46:37.092 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - TankWaterSense changed from OFF to ON
2019-09-21 09:46:38.639 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘TankWaterSense’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:46:38.659 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - TankWaterSense predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:46:38.671 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - TankWaterSense changed from ON to OFF
2019-09-21 09:47:38.985 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘TankWaterSense’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:47:38.997 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - TankWaterSense predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.663 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - NicGarageDoorSensor changed from OPEN to CLOSED
2019-09-21 09:49:27.703 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘GarageAlert’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.719 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - GarageAlert predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.732 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - GarageAlert changed from 5 to 0
“”

""SITEMAP
[09:57:53] openhabian@openHABianPi:~$ tail -f /var/log/openhab2/openhab.log -f /var/log/openhab2/events.log
==> /var/log/openhab2/openhab.log <==
2019-09-21 09:42:19.121 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:42:20.189 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:45:21.059 [WARN ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Configuration model ‘default.sitemap’ has errors, therefore ignoring it: [1,24]: missing RULE_STRING at ‘{’

2019-09-21 09:46:14.865 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:47:15.051 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:47:35.811 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
“”

“”
SENSORS
==> /var/log/openhab2/events.log <==
2019-09-21 09:46:37.092 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - TankWaterSense changed from OFF to ON
2019-09-21 09:46:38.639 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘TankWaterSense’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:46:38.659 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - TankWaterSense predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:46:38.671 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - TankWaterSense changed from ON to OFF
2019-09-21 09:47:38.985 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘TankWaterSense’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:47:38.997 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - TankWaterSense predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.663 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - NicGarageDoorSensor changed from OPEN to CLOSED
2019-09-21 09:49:27.703 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘GarageAlert’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.719 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - GarageAlert predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.732 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - GarageAlert changed from 5 to 0

“”
SITEMAP
==> /var/log/openhab2/openhab.log <==
2019-09-21 09:42:19.121 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:42:20.189 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:45:21.059 [WARN ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Configuration model ‘default.sitemap’ has errors, therefore ignoring it: [1,24]: missing RULE_STRING at ‘{’

2019-09-21 09:46:14.865 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:47:15.051 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:47:35.811 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
“”

""ITEMS
==> /var/log/openhab2/events.log <==
2019-09-21 09:46:37.092 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - TankWaterSense changed from OFF to ON
2019-09-21 09:46:38.639 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘TankWaterSense’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:46:38.659 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - TankWaterSense predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:46:38.671 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - TankWaterSense changed from ON to OFF
2019-09-21 09:47:38.985 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘TankWaterSense’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:47:38.997 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - TankWaterSense predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.663 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - NicGarageDoorSensor changed from OPEN to CLOSED
2019-09-21 09:49:27.703 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘GarageAlert’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.719 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - GarageAlert predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.732 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - GarageAlert changed from 5 to 0
“”

""SITEMAP
[09:57:53] openhabian@openHABianPi:~$ tail -f /var/log/openhab2/openhab.log -f /var/log/openhab2/events.log
==> /var/log/openhab2/openhab.log <==
2019-09-21 09:42:19.121 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:42:20.189 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:45:21.059 [WARN ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Configuration model ‘default.sitemap’ has errors, therefore ignoring it: [1,24]: missing RULE_STRING at ‘{’

2019-09-21 09:46:14.865 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:47:15.051 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
2019-09-21 09:47:35.811 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Refreshing model ‘default.sitemap’
“”

“”
SENSORS
==> /var/log/openhab2/events.log <==
2019-09-21 09:46:37.092 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - TankWaterSense changed from OFF to ON
2019-09-21 09:46:38.639 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘TankWaterSense’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:46:38.659 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - TankWaterSense predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:46:38.671 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - TankWaterSense changed from ON to OFF
2019-09-21 09:47:38.985 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘TankWaterSense’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:47:38.997 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - TankWaterSense predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.663 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - NicGarageDoorSensor changed from OPEN to CLOSED
2019-09-21 09:49:27.703 [ome.event.ItemCommandEvent] - Item ‘GarageAlert’ received command OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.719 [nt.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - GarageAlert predicted to become OFF
2019-09-21 09:49:27.732 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - GarageAlert changed from 5 to 0

chilump · September 22, 2019, 11:51pm

@chris @Bruce_Osborne @Maximo
Just wondering if these logs are sufficient to figure out what the problem is?

chilump · September 24, 2019, 7:28pm

Bump,
Just wondering if anyone has insight into why my water sensors aren’t working?
Thanks

Bruce_Osborne · September 24, 2019, 7:31pm

Official documentation says “No!” .
See “When things do not go as planned”

See also the zwave log viewer
https://www.cd-jackson.com/index.php/openhab/zwave-log-viewer

chilump · September 25, 2019, 12:44am

Ok i’m lost…
I don’t have a file to point to so I have to copy my logs to the thread. Is there something i’m missing?

Thanks

Bruce_Osborne · September 25, 2019, 12:52am

The end of that page says that by default it is in the OpenHAB log file and then it tells you how to put it into a separate file.

chris · September 25, 2019, 7:11am

No - they aren’t. You need to enable debug logging for starters and then provide the debug log as a file - not pasted in like this as it’s a) too short and b) difficult to use in this format.

chilump · September 27, 2019, 8:30pm

Hey guys.
Thanks for helping me learn about logs. I still need to work on it but i’ll get there slowly but surely.

I figure out the problem. I updated the Perimiter 121 setting to “Send Alarm” and I updated. I also selected the repair zwave option.

I can now see the state change on my sitemap.
Thanks