Hi,
I do have a question about the Group Configuration. Till now I only worked with Paper UI where I added the Things and Items. Now I want to put the Items in Groups.
The tutorial says…> > Note that you still need to define your items, sitemaps, persistence configurations and rules in the according config files (as done in openHAB 1). Such functionality will be added bit by bit to the Paper UI only.
On another site there is an overview which tells me that I can create groups via Paper UI… its a bit confusing.
So, I am at the Paper UI /Items where I want to add a group to a Hue lamp…
Label= Name of the Thing? Room?
Category= Group? (Lights?)
Parent groups=? (All Lights?)
Hey @sinthom if you edit the Item “Hue Lamp” it looks like this.
You can see that in the bottom “Parent Groups” are the Groups I created vie Paper UI and I want to be connected to this specific item. You need to do this for every single Item.
Now its getting clearer. Thank You! So the Label is my “intern Name” which is more a description for me?
Is it better to choose the type “dimmer” than “color” für the hue bulbs?
…and do I have to take the same Label in Item as it is in Things?
For example, in Things it shows me “Kueche Decke” (hue:0210:00178820a253:18), if I switch to Itemes its called just “hue_0210_00178820a253_18_color” on the Itemspage.
Now i edited it and wrote Label: Hue Kueche Decke / Category: Light / Type: Color (was before there) and tried to save it --> Error 405: Item is not editible
Name is the Item Name which will be later used in example the sitemap. The Label is a short Description and can be changed always, but the name is UNIQUE, you cant edit the Name afterwards only if you delete the item.
Name = Unique and after saving non editable.
Label = Not Unique editable
Depends do you have a colour hue or just a dimmable hue ? Decide for yourself.
This is one Thing, it has two Channels, each Channel has an Item (color and temperature). Now I just want to edit the Items and give them a Label/Category and Group, but I received the message “Error 404: Item not editable”
I couldn’t even give them a group.
hmm, seems that I can not edit Items that are already in my Items-Folder. I’ve created a new one which I added.
So, I have to clear the whole Item-List and create a new one…
Items, Groups, Things created manual via manual textual configuration like openhab/conf/items/default.items etc.
CAN NOT be edited with PaperUI.
I personally use a mix of PaperUI and Textual manual configuration.
I try to configure everything possible via. PaperUI and only stuff that needs manual configuration I do the manual textual way.
Items, Groups and Things created via PaperUI are editable via PaperUI and can be used in manual files like default.items.
Items, Groups and Things created via Textual configuration can be used with PaperUI but not edited with PaperUI.
What you should do:
Unlink the Items from the Channels
Create the Groups via PaperUI
Create 2 Items via PaperUI
3b. Give each item their Parent Groups
Link the 2 Items to the 2 Channels
It should work fine this way.
Sorry, this could has been a perfekt ending of the thread…
…but I have to ask again, because I am confused about…create 2 items via PaperUI…you mean 2 items for each lamp?
For example, the Thing “Hue Kueche Decke” needs 2 Items because it has two different characteristics?
For example, the Thing “Hue Kueche Decke” needs 2 Items because it has two different characteristics?
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Yes (because it has 2 channels).
Linking is done via the Thing, not by editing the properties of the item. The type property of the item should be “compatible” to the channel type that is being linked (see hue readme below).
