Hi, How can I evaluate an Item change based on the source of the change? I have a Switch Item that can be changed either by a rule or manually in the sitemap. Is there an Item property that can be used as a condition in a rule? E.g. do not change the switch when it was switched manually. Thanks!

[image] Baschtlwaschtl: is this useable in RulesDSL? Sadly, the PR that makes this possible wasn’t merged in time for 5.2.0: [DSL] Make context information available for rules/scripts (#5607) main ← Nadahar:dsl-context …

That PR will make it to 5.3 but not 5.2.x. It’s a new feature, not a bug fix, hence why it doesn’t get backported to 5.2.x. - I was wrong it got backported!

… well, It got backported and is listed here: Release openHAB 5.2.1 · openhab/openhab-distro · GitHub

[image] ollo: It got backported My bad, you’re right!

[image] ollo: This leads to an error that “ctx” cannot be resolved. I can’t explain that. I just started a docker version of 5.2.1 to test, and when I literally copy the code that fails for you, I get this in the log: 15:08:21.649[ERROR] [org.openhab.core.model.script.ctx] - Ctx: {event=Exec…

…yes, I do have docker container OH5.2.1 running. Can you share your full rule? Mine looks like this: rule "Luefter2" when Item LuefterSwitch received command then logError("ctx", "Ctx: {}", ctx.toString()) end and the error message is: 2026-08-12 20:38:21.522 [ERROR] [.handler.AbstractScriptMo…

… ahh, I figured - it must be like this: rule "Luefter2" when Item LuefterSwitch received command then logError("ctx", "Ctx: {}", LuefterSwitch.toString()) end the output is this: 2026-08-12 20:48:58.988 [ERROR] [org.openhab.core.model.script.ctx ] - Ctx: LuefterSwitch (Type=SwitchItem, State…

[image] ollo: Can you share your full rule? I have shut down the VM and the docker container and all that, I could start it all up again, but all I did was to modify an existing rule by pasting your line verbatim. I then ran the rule manually from the UI. There was nothing special about the r…

[image] ollo: … ahh, I figured - it must be like this: No, now you only log the Item. If you want the source information, you should probably use eventObject directly. But, if these don’t exist in your installation, you can’t be running 5.2.1… I have no other explanation. There is no “qualify…

[image] ollo: [image] That is a genuine mystery; however, you didn’t show the bundle where this actually is, which is org.openhab.core.model.script.runtime. Wasn’t that bundle in your output? edit: It’s probably not a “feature”, try bundle:list instead.

How to evaluate an Item change based on source of change

Setup, Configuration and Use Scripts & Rules

Nadahar (Nadar) August 21, 2026, 3:42am 28

I found the problem, and it’s all my fault

I’ve made a fix, but I don’t know when or if it will get merged: