How to Setup Jython

[5iver (Scott Rushworth)]

The Jython and helper library add-ons have been complete for a long time, with the exception of incorporating the changes needed to move to an automation repository and a response to the namespaces that I had suggested. As I stated above…

@5iver

The first thing you would need to do is to create a repository for automation. Next, respond to my question about the naming convention for the namespaces .

… these are the things that I need decisively answered for me to be able to resubmit the add-ons:

1. We agreed back in March to move everything but the rule engine to an automation repository, but this has not yet been created. When will this be created so that I can submit the add-ons there? Or have you changed your mind?

https://github.com/openhab/openhab-core/issues/1319#issuecomment-660565529

This discussion has gotten WAY off topic from what I had originally presented. My intention was to discuss creating a repository that would hold everything related to automation, where the maintainer(s) could focus specifically on automation. I feel this is very much needed for openHAB to evolve. You and @wborn preferred to keep the rule engines in OHC, so the scope of the discussion turned to the creation of a repository for automation, but with the exception of the current rule engine. An openHAB repository has not yet been created for this purpose.

2. I’ve waited for a response to my suggested namespaces since July, copied below. Unless I hear otherwise, I will just incorporate them into the Jython and helper library add-ons as I had suggested.

https://github.com/openhab/openhab-addons/pull/7208#issuecomment-660445599

There are many more ScriptEngineFactory add-ons to submit, possibly some more helper library add-ons, but I would much rather work on a scripting API than helper libraries for each scripting language, and there are many community helper libraries that could be made into add-ons. Putting them all into this namespace will be ugly and difficult to manage, as I pointed out in openhab/openhab-core#1319 (comment). However, I will accept whatever namespace you force me to use in order to move this PR forward and to finally get it merged into 2.5.x. I suggest then to just take out the separators from the proposal I made three months ago…

org.openhab.automation.scriptenginefactoryjython
org.openhab.automation.helperlibrariesjython
org.openhab.automation.helperlibrariesjythonareatriggersandactions

3. While we are at it… the helper library add-on has not been reviewed. Other than the above changes, are there any other changes that will be required for it to be merged? At one point you had said that they needed to be included in the Jython add-on, which is a bad idea. The two add-ons are equally important.

@Kai

So I guess everybody is now simply waiting for an answer on that question above:

So can we count on you to update https://github.com/openhab/openhab-addons/pull/7208 and get it merged for 3.0.0.M2?

How is there any question about whether I would continue work on my add-ons?! I will not make any commitments for M2, since I am unaware of any firm schedule for its release or when my questions will be answered, but I’m not going to stop working on them.

@Kai

but instead of helping moving things forward, Scott seems to prefer to play dead and not respond anymore.

Great idea… show the community how well antagonizing disgruntled contributors with snide comments motivates them!

@wborn

But it can be perceived as a hostile take over.

Sure would… just like the Groovy add-on was.

@Bruce_Osborne

He has offered to assist somebody else from the community to write the PR.

I never offered to assist somebody else to write the PR. Where did that come from?

@Kai

If we now agree that his statements can be taken that he is fine with it, that sounds good.

I do not know which of my statements you are referring to or where you got the impression that I was not able to work on my add-ons. I am absolutely capable of migrating my work to OH3. I will not make any commitments for M2, since I do not know when my questions will be answered, but I’m not going to stop working on them. Yes, my time is limited, but this there is very little left to do.