# Missing z-wave device configuration parameter **URL:** \ **Category:** Bindings\ **Tags:** zwave1, philio\ **Created:** [September 27, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/missing-z-wave-device-configuration-parameter/34560 "2017-09-27T20:22:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Simdebims](https://community.openhab.org/user_avatar/community.openhab.org/simdebims/32/72661_2.png) [@Simdebims](https://community.openhab.org/u/Simdebims)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/missing-z-wave-device-configuration-parameter/34560/1 "2017-09-27T20:22:04Z")
Hey, I have a Philio PAN06 in wall dual relay which is working well using the z-wave binding. According to its user manual it has an “Auto off timer” which can be set in seconds. Unfortunately this timer is not reflected by the device configuration parameters in the [database](http://www.cd-jackson.com/index.php/zwave/zwave-device-database/zwave-device-list/devicesummary/173). There seems to be another [deleted device](http://www.cd-jackson.com/index.php/zwave/zwave-device-database/zwave-device-list/devicesummary/174) in the database which had this parameter. Do you have any hints how I could get this timer working? Is there a possibility to add those parameters? Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![5iver](https://community.openhab.org/user_avatar/community.openhab.org/5iver/32/21201_2.png) [@5iver](https://community.openhab.org/u/5iver)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 5:26am UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/missing-z-wave-device-configuration-parameter/34560/2 "2017-09-28T05:26:26Z")
> [@Simdebims](#): > > Do you have any hints how I could get this timer working? Is there a possibility to add those parameters? If you setup an account on Chris’ website, you can modify it. You could also upload your manual too… I do not see a reference to a timer in the one that was uploaded to the device’s page. ---
**Author:** ![Simdebims](https://community.openhab.org/user_avatar/community.openhab.org/simdebims/32/72661_2.png) [@Simdebims](https://community.openhab.org/u/Simdebims)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 8:34am UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/missing-z-wave-device-configuration-parameter/34560/3 "2017-09-28T08:34:07Z")
As far as I can see, there are 3 versions of the device: original (the one in the database), [A-Version](https://www.betaalbare-domotica.nl/media/blfa_files/PAN06-1B.pdf) (deleted in the database) and [B-Version](https://www.z-wave.pl/pl/p/file/d414bddebd11a57edcb49988d4e244fc/C50101008V01-PAN06-1-2-3B-manual-20150831.pdf). I got the A-Version. So should I try to add it as a new device to the database or should I try to “reactivate” the deleted device? There is an error “`thingid` is duplicated with another device with overlapping versions.”, so I’m not sure how to handle this kind of versioning…