OH 2.4: "System started" triggered if Thing added/removed

[igi (Igor Jasan)]

@John_Siemon

Since this issue is now appearing in 2.4, I wonder if it is a binding or add on change that is affecting both 2.4 and 2.5, and is causing a System start to trigger, and not changes to the core?

I do not have too much devices but can reproduce it on two various bindings: Shelly and Sony.

[John_Siemon]

My thought was that something changed across both 2.4 and 2.5 at about the same time. Only thing I could think of was addons. I don’t use either of those bindings. Do you have MQTT or other addon/actions enabled? This may just be a rabbit hole.

[Bruce_Osborne]

Any jar files in the addons folder?

[John_Siemon]

Nope. None for me.

[igi (Igor Jasan)]

@John_Siemon

Do you have MQTT or other addon/actions enabled?

MQTT is not enabled.
Installed addons:
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Astro Binding
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Exec Binding
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Mail Binding
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Network Binding
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: OpenWeatherMap Binding
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: IO :: Java Sound Support
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: IO :: openHAB Cloud Connector
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: IO :: Web Audio Support
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Transformation Service :: Exec
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Transformation Service :: Map
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Transformation Service :: RegEx
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Shelly Binding
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Sony Binding

[igi (Igor Jasan)]

@Bruce_Osborne

Any jar files in the addons folder?

The mentioned Shelly and Sony Binding JAR and californium-core-2.0.0.jar + element-connector-2.0.0.jar as requirement for Shelly Binding.

[Bruce_Osborne]

The Shelly binding is a 2.5 binding and may have issuing 2.4. You should install on 2.5 rather than use the jar to be sure you have the proper build.
There are also official Sony audio bindings for 2.4 and 2,5. Why did you manually install it?

It is possible those manually installed bindings are causing an issue.

[igi (Igor Jasan)]

I’m the QA for Shelly Binding developer, so I’m using the SNAPSHOT.

Not the Sony Audio Binding but Sony Devices Binding which is still not included in stable OH build:

Sony Devices Binding

This binding supports Sony TVs, Blurays, BDVs, AVRs, Soundbars and Wireless Speakers. Please note that low end devices generally are not supported (they either do not have a network connection or do not have the services running on the device to support the binding) - there is NO list of what is not supported (sorry). Eventually I’ll start creating a list of known devices - but for now there is not. Please note this binding has NOT been merged yet and is still a work in progress. You can fin…

[igi (Igor Jasan)]

Just removed all JAR’s from addon folder and stopped/uninstalled the bindings/libs. Now only stable addons are installed.
I removed a Netwok Binding Thing (pingable network device) and the refresh of rules still happens.

[John_Siemon]

My installed add-ons that overlap yours are:

openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Astro Binding
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Exec Binding
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Network Binding
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: IO :: openHAB Cloud Connector
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: IO :: Web Audio Support
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Transformation Service :: Exec
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Transformation Service :: Map
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: Transformation Service :: RegEx

I also have
openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: DarkSky Binding
which is very similar to OpenWeatherMap Binding

I also have several other add-ons installed, but if it is an add-on that is causing the System started trigger, then it has to be something we both have installed. You have ruled out the Network binding so it would leave one of the others listed above as the likely culprit, if any.

[igi (Igor Jasan)]

@John_Siemon

You have ruled out the Network binding so it would leave one of the others listed above as the likely culprit, if any.

I meant I just removed one (of many) thing of type “Network Binding” - one pingable device. The Network Binding is still installed and active. And the issue is still present although the other both add-ons from addon folder are uninstalled.