openHAB 3.4 Release discussion

[J-N-K (Jan N. Klug)]

Set a state description for the item with the proper unit.

[bolausson (Bjoern)]

I just went through the release notes and found this under “Breaking Changes that Require Manual Interaction after the Upgrade”:

Core Runtime
Default units have been added for all dimensions. A state description defining the unit should be added to each item that uses a different unit.

I think this is what you are referring to, right?

I must admit, that I am lost at that point as I wasn’t able to find a place in the OpenHAB UI to define those descriptions

Could you give me a pointer to the page where I can define this?

Thanks a lot,
Björn

[J-N-K (Jan N. Klug)]

Settings → Items → (item name) → Add Metadata → State Description

[bolausson (Bjoern)]

Thanks a lot!
That indeed did the trick!

I added “%.3f Wh” as “Pattern” and now it is displayed correctly and even stored again correctly in InfluxDB:

And I am now able to add multiple images per post

[Tuny (Sebastian)]

Anyone got an idea what is the problem here:

OH3.4: trend line sampling of trend item not working

I recently updated from the lastest Milestone Release to openHAB 3.4.0. Now I am facing the problem that the Trend Line Sampling parameter in the widget options is not working anymore. See an example here: trendSampling: is set to “5” (minutes). Before Update (all good): [vorUpdate] After Update (just a straight line): [nachUpdate] Anyone else facing similar problems? How can I debug this? Thank you. BR

Thanks, BR

[milo (M)]

Hello all,

I created a new topic than since the OH3.4 updated the rules still not running

Have look here for details:

Astro binding is not running properly in OH3.4

Hello, since I updated my system to OH3.4 my rules are not triggered properly. I already opened a topic regarding tis but closed it because I thought it is solved by simply cleaning the cache. See here https://community.openhab.org/t/rules-not-running/142717/8. Now I see the the same issue again with the Astro binding. The Trigger is set corerectly from the binding as you can see in the events.log: 2023-01-05 13:05:57.868 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ChannelTriggeredEvent ] - astro:sun:smarthome:no…

[Halec (M.H.)]

I use three types of EnOcean devices. Lights, dimmers and rollershutters. With openHAB 3.3 everything worked as desired.
But after the update to openHAB 3.4 the dimmers and rollershutters are only shown as switches.
Previously, I had a slider for the dimmer. Now a switch is displayed, which of course does not work.
At the rollershutter I had the up/stop/down buttons. Now a switch is displayed, which of course does not work either.
Only the lights (switches) still work.
Does anyone have any ideas?

[robd (anonym)]

The unit of measurement handling in OpenHab always confused me.
Does the StateDescription.Pattern (“for display purposes”) property effect how a value is stored in persistence?
I would asssume that this pattern is applied to all values retrieved from persistence.

[Pedro_Liberal]

@robd

The unit of measurement handling in OpenHab always confused me.
Does the StateDescription.Pattern (“for display purposes”) (…)

Going on a tangent here, but what I would like to have is a simpler way of using the state description pattern to display units. I’m not a programmer, I don’t know what to type to properly show units correctly. For the longest time this blew my mind because I wrote “Watt” or “%” and it didn’t display properly. I can’t guess the best way, but I’d love to have a sort of a click box where I could simply pick the unit from a list and openHAB would add the correct string needed to show the units for display purposes.

[hmerk (Hans-Jörg Merk)]

@Pedro_Liberal

I don’t know what to type to properly show units correctly. For the longest time this blew my mind because I wrote “Watt” or “%” and it didn’t display properly.

C’mon, it is all in the docs.

Units Of Measurement

Going back to openHAB 2.x, we already had the option to define state descriptions :

"Outside [%.2f °F]"

In general, the syntax did not change, it was just extended.

[Pedro_Liberal]

@hmerk

C’mon, it is all in the docs.

Yes! Of course, now I know that. But it wasn’t my first thought to check when I started out.
What I’m saying is that it could be a bit better/easier/cleaner to do this in the UI, instead of having to guess what to do or where to go.

Edit:
Also, all of the examples in the docs are for configuration files - I didn’t know how to use those examples with the mainUI and metadata.

Maybe a link in the state description saying “if you’re not sure what to put here check this page “ - this alone would have saved me a fair amount of troubleshooting time.

But if we could have a tick box (or similar , something visual to help guide users in choosing it) to select the unit we wouldn’t need to look at the docs. Just select “watts”, another one to pick watts or Kwatts or something.
(yes I’m over simplifying, this isn’t as easy as that, just an example!)

Edit 2: humm in hindsight this isn’t a good place for this post - should I copy this to the 4.0 wishlist post instead???

[JimT (jimtng)]

@Pedro_Liberal

I’d love to have a sort of a click box where I could simply pick the unit from a list and openHAB would add the correct string needed to show the units for display purposes.

If you’re using the web GUI, I think this is a very reasonable request/idea.

[Andrew_Rowe]

@Pedro_Liberal

should I copy this to the 4.0 wishlist post instead???

yes

[rlkoshak (Rich Koshak)]

@robd

Does the StateDescription.Pattern (“for display purposes”) property effect how a value is stored in persistence?

In OH 3.4 and before, yes. The state description pattern does more than just dictate how it’s displayed. Indeed, that’s the unit that persistence assumes when persisting and restoring.

In OH 4 there is ongoing work to separate state description so it only impacts how it’s displayed and an alternative mechanism to control the actual unit series by the item, persistence, etc.

[robd (anonym)]

Thank you, Rich!
Looking forward to OH 4

[stefan.hoehn (Stefan Höhn)]

@Pedro_Liberal

Maybe a link in the state description saying “if you’re not sure what to put here check this page “ - this alone would have saved me a fair amount of troubleshooting time.

Would a link to OpenHAB docs State Description already make a difference?

[Halec (M.H.)]

Does anyone know if there is a known bug in the UI?

[hmerk (Hans-Jörg Merk)]

What kind of bug ? You need to be more precise asking such a question.

[scheuerer]

Some feedback from my update from 3.4.0 to 3.4.1 from yesterday.
Here it seems that OH and the Addons got an update.
It was needed from me, to do an manual reboot otherwise some Items were not displayed.
Also I saw, that Values and Items from my Shelly TRV Thermostat were not working.
The only way was, to delete the Shelly TRV as a thing an create them new.
Now the values are back and it seems that it works.
What else I need to look on it?

Is there a changelog from the Shelly ADDON from 3.4.0 to 3.4.1 ?

BR
Jochen

[Lolodomo]

No change about Shelly binding in 3.4.1.