Problems with KNX dimmer

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  • Platform information:
    • Hardware: Raspberry Pi 4
    • openHAB version: 2.5.3.1

Hi guys,

I have a KNX-DALI-Dimmer in use. Several month ago, I was able to integrate spots in openHAB, which still works fine. I’m able to switch on/off and dim up/down the spots.

In the same way, I did for another spots. But the only thing what I can do, is switch on/off. I’m not able to dim up or down the lights, although I did the same settings.

The things are designed as follows, the first one (EG_Kueche_Spots) works:

Thing device DALI_65 “DALI Gateway 65” [address=“1.1.65”, fetch=false, pingInterval=600, readInterval=0] {
Type dimmer : EG_Kueche_Spots “Küche Spots” [switch=“6/5/1+6/5/4”, position=“6/5/5”, increaseDecrease=“6/5/2”]
Type dimmer : EG_TV_Wand “TV-Zimmer Wand” [switch=“6/0/1+6/0/4”, position=“6/0/5”, increaseDecrease=“6/0/2”]
}

And the items as:

Dimmer EG_Kueche_Spots “Küche Spots” (Licht, EG_Kueche) {channel=“knx:device:bridge:DALI_65:EG_Kueche_Spots”}
Dimmer EG_TV_Wand “TV-Zimmer Wand” (Licht, EG_Kueche) {channel=“knx:device:bridge:DALI_65:EG_TV_Wand”}

I cannot remember, if I did some settings. The settings for both group adresses in ETS are the same. Any ideas?

In the ETS diagnose window, I can see 6/0/1 when I switch the lights on and 6/0/4 for dimming status. But no 6/0/5 when I swipe over range of 0 - 100%.

Regards,
Wolf

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Any ideas? Any hints?

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Hi all,

I still have this issue. I tried several things. The only thing what works, is when I add in the ETS5 the communication object of other spots to the group address of the kitchen 6/5/5, then I’m able to dim up/down the lights. But if the spot is in another group address than 6/5/5, e.g. 6/0/5, then it doesn’t work.

Perhaps there are still other settings to do in the ETS?

Regards,
Wolf

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Hi Wolf,

let’s see if we can figure this out.

Let me get your setup straight:

Type dimmer : EG_TV_Wand “TV-Zimmer Wand”
GA to switch on/off = 6/0/1,
GA for switching on/off = 6/0/4,
GA for absolute positioning = 6/0/5,
GA for relative positioning = 6/0/2

Do all these adresses work if you use them outside openHAB via KNX-switch or whatever you use?

Regards,
Arne

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Hi Arne,

thank you for your respond!

Yes, the GAs for the TV room are exactly as you described:

  • 6/0/1 - to switch the lights on/off
  • 6/0/2 - to dim relative
  • 6/0/3 - status dim value
  • 6/0/4 - status on/off
  • 6/0/5 - to dim absolute

All these addresses work fine within MDT KNX switches.

When I use 6/0/5, there is no log entry in the ETS Monitoring. I only see entries for 6/5/5 as if there are different settings for 6/5/5 than 6/0/5. But the are identically.

Regards,
Tural

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Can you please attach screenshots from the ETS of the none working and the working group adress?

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Hi Arne,

sure (see attached screenshots). Perhaps you see more, than I do.

Thanks and regards

Kitchen:

DALI kitchen
DALI kitchen2567×1303 252 KB

TV-room:

DALI TV room
DALI TV room2556×1300 252 KB

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Hi Wolf,

Unfortunately not.

Regarding this:

You can only see activity on the group monitor regarding group adress 6/5/5 but not 6/0/5? Even if you use your MDT switch to dim the lights?

Can you also attach a screenshot of the assignment of group adresses ↔ communication objects for your KNX-Dali-Dimmer?

I just try to find out if it is an issue with openHAB at all or just something wrong with your setup.

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Hi,

I don’t use abolute values on the wall switch, only dimming relative for kitchen and TV room. And both I can see in the log.

Here are the screenshots with group address - commucation object assignment, for the

Kitchen:

DALI kitchen KO
DALI kitchen KO1646×264 61.2 KB

TV-room:

DALI TV room KO
DALI TV room KO1639×246 50.1 KB

Thank you in advance,
Wolf

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Hi,

ok so no problems regarding your KNX setup as far as I can see.

The only difference to my setup with KNX dimmers is that I defined one thing per lamp with one dimmer channel and I did not set the physical adress. And another even bigger one may be that I upgraded to openHAB 3.

Example:

UID: knx:device:a639a154e0:86963a94b3
label: ArneSchlafzimmer_Deckenlampe
thingTypeUID: knx:device
configuration:
  pingInterval: 600
  readInterval: 0
  fetch: false
bridgeUID: knx:ip:a639a154e0
channels:
  - id: Dimmer
    channelTypeUID: knx:dimmer
    label: Dimmer
    description: ""
    configuration:
      increaseDecrease: 0/1/151+0/2/151
      position: 0/1/152+0/2/151
      switch: 0/0/151

Do you already tried it my way? And did you take a look at your openHAB log?

Regards,
Arne

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Hi Arne,

you did it via the openHAB web page and not via Visual Studio, right? But you configured the physical address 0/1/152 and so on… What is exactly the difference?

Pehaps I have to try with openHAB3. I’m going to upgrade it next week.

Thank you for you support,

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Hey,

Yes, but that should make no difference.

The difference is the adress "1.1.65” in the thing definition of your dimmer. But more importantly: Did you take a look in your logs? Maybe there is an easier solution before you upgrade to version 3.

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Hi Arne,

I tried back and forth, but no change. I had enough.

Today I replaced openHAB with Home Assistant and it worked from the beginning. I am able to dim the brightness of the lights in TV room. I did no changes in ETS.

For now, I will try Home Assistant, which is much easier to configure btw.

Thank you for your support, Arne!

Cheers