# Z-Wave: Outdated Philio X in 1 Sensor Configuration

**URL:** <https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459>\
**Category:** Bindings\
**Tags:** z-wave1, philio\
**Created:** [September 25, 2016, 9:30am UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459 "2016-09-25T09:30:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![PascalTurbo](https://community.openhab.org/user_avatar/community.openhab.org/pascalturbo/32/70957_2.png) [@PascalTurbo](https://community.openhab.org/u/PascalTurbo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 9:30am UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459/1 "2016-09-25T09:30:36Z")

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Hi There,

I’ve found a lot of Posts where Philios “X in 1” Sensor didn’t return the state of the door or the alarm.

While reading the manual I found out, that there are two versions of The Devices - V2 and V4. The last one supports security and is using “Notification” Class instead of “Sensor Binary” Class. Maybe this is the “real” problem.

I would create a new configuration, but I’m unsure about “how”:

Is it possible to tell one configuration, that some options are only available with V4 devices? Or will there be a new Configuration for the V4 devices?

So long!  
PascalTurbo

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**Author:** ![chris](https://community.openhab.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@chris](https://community.openhab.org/u/chris)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 9:52am UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459/2 "2016-09-25T09:52:20Z")

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A complete new configuration is required for different versions. Often it’s more than just the config parameters that change between versions - command classes can change as well, so they re treated as different devices.

However, if you are using OH1 binding, then I would suggest to use the SENSOR\_BINARY class - not the NOTIFICATION/ALARM class. Normally there is a configuration in most devices that allow you to select which class to use.

If you want to create an updated configuration, then you can either update the XML, or you can create a new device in the [online database](http://www.cd-jackson.com/index.php/zwave/zwave-device-database). There is a guide to the database [here](http://www.cd-jackson.com/index.php/zwave/zwave-device-database/zwave-device-database-guide).

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**Author:** ![PascalTurbo](https://community.openhab.org/user_avatar/community.openhab.org/pascalturbo/32/70957_2.png) [@PascalTurbo](https://community.openhab.org/u/PascalTurbo)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459/3 "2016-09-25T18:44:37Z")

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Alright - than I will wait until OH2 is released and create a new configuration.

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**Author:** ![chris](https://community.openhab.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@chris](https://community.openhab.org/u/chris)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459/4 "2016-09-25T19:17:02Z")

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You can still create a new configuration - that’s no problem, and it might be necessary if there are difference parameters in the new device. The OH1 binding also supports multiple versions…

My comment was really relating to the use of the NOTIFICATION command class only…

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**Author:** ![PascalTurbo](https://community.openhab.org/user_avatar/community.openhab.org/pascalturbo/32/70957_2.png) [@PascalTurbo](https://community.openhab.org/u/PascalTurbo)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459/5 "2016-09-30T13:11:28Z")

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Hey @chris: I wan’t to upload the device XML - but there is no “add” button like described in the documentation. (And yes, I’m logged in).

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**Author:** ![chris](https://community.openhab.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@chris](https://community.openhab.org/u/chris)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459/6 "2016-09-30T13:16:52Z")

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Please let me know your user name as I will need to give you access.

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**Author:** ![PascalTurbo](https://community.openhab.org/user_avatar/community.openhab.org/pascalturbo/32/70957_2.png) [@PascalTurbo](https://community.openhab.org/u/PascalTurbo)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459/7 "2016-09-30T13:23:43Z")

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PascalTurbo - what else? 🕶

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**Author:** ![chris](https://community.openhab.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@chris](https://community.openhab.org/u/chris)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-outdated-philio-x-in-1-sensor-configuration/14459/8 "2016-09-30T13:24:59Z")

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Of course ;). You should now have access.
