Zigbee Bulbs update immediately to UNDEF, Items don't change from this

Are these issues the same?

Here, you say -:

However I understood the issue here is different

I understood this to mean that it doesn’t update the state if it’s commanded directly - ie via switch or other system.

Maybe I’ve misinterpreted the question? IF so, then my answer is also not relevant as I was assuming the issue is relating to reporting of device states