ZWave Door Lock - OH2 - Help

[JjS (Jedrzej)]

As I undestand, the secure transmission for locks is not supported yet in OH2. If I have a lock that is running in OH 1.9, will I have to re-initialize it (secure include) again once finally OH2 supports it or it will work if same security network key is used?

Where can I get the development stuff mentioned by Chris from? I assume it’s at Cloudbees, should I download the .kar from openHAB-Distribution integration built?

I downloaded version 2.1.0, but zwave binding still reports as 2.0.0.

I am eager to give it a test drive, so far my fresh OH2 instance does not talk to my Danalock.

[chris (Chris Jackson)]

@JjS

If I have a lock that is running in OH 1.9, will I have to re-initialize it (secure include) again once finally OH2 supports it or it will work if same security network key is used?

So long as you don’t loose the key, you shouldn’t need to reinitialise it.

I’ll try and get an announcement out about this tomorrow. I have been trying to find the easiest way to provide the updates - I was thinking about setting up a CI task, but I think for now I’ll just provide a JAR (somewhere!).

[JjS (Jedrzej)]

Thanks.

As my milage with OH2 is just 10 days, please remember to explain in your tomorrow update how to handle jar in relation to kar (which is a new concept for me as I am rookie with Karaf), should it be pasted into addons along with kar?

[shawnmix]

@chris

I’ll try and get an announcement out about this tomorrow. I have been trying to find the easiest way to provide the updates - I was thinking about setting up a CI task, but I think for now I’ll just provide a JAR (somewhere!).

Thanks Chris! I’m excited to test this out, even though I haven’t even gotten past including all my devices, and getting Alexa to control them. It’s been too long since I set my original OH 1.x setup. Now I have to re-learn all I did before, and the new adaptations. So it’s taking some time to say the least. But I look forward to the endeavor of testing out the lock integration.

[shawnmix]

@chris I’m sure you’re a busy man, but just wanted to check on the test version of the secure lock inclusion function? You’ve seen my chaos lately with having to swap out some switches (thanks for the help btw!) - so I figure for now I can focus on the lock functionality.

[chris (Chris Jackson)]

See here -:

OH2 Z-Wave refactoring and testing... and SECURITY

The latest version of the development binding dated 8th Sep 2018 is here. Toward the end of last year I spent some time doing some initial refactoring of the ZWave binding in OH2. This focussed on rewriting the way transactions work as this is an enabler for other areas of the code. At the same time I also restructured the different layers of the binding to make things cleaner, and done some changes to support a system of autocoding the command classes directly from the Z-Wave standard which s…

[JjS (Jedrzej)]

I would like to confirm that the new binding mentioned above works with Danalock/Gerdalock.

[shawnmix]

@JjS I would suggest posting in the referenced post from Chris. This thread seems to be the place that this information should be noted/confirmed.

I’ll be looking to test this out as well and post my results there. To help reduce confusion and continued add-on to this thread, I’m going to repeat the link Chris supplied here:

OH2 Z-Wave refactoring and testing... and SECURITY

The latest version of the development binding dated 8th Sep 2018 is here. Toward the end of last year I spent some time doing some initial refactoring of the ZWave binding in OH2. This focussed on rewriting the way transactions work as this is an enabler for other areas of the code. At the same time I also restructured the different layers of the binding to make things cleaner, and done some changes to support a system of autocoding the command classes directly from the Z-Wave standard which s…

And will mark this thread as “resolved” so folks can direct to the correct thread. Thanks again @chris for pointing us in the right direction here and all your hard work on the ZWave support.

[JjS (Jedrzej)]

I posted in both threads, so either way one can find the confirmation.

[JjS (Jedrzej)]

Another question about the lock, about feeding back lock status to OH2.
In previous version of the binding there was a lock status channel. It was quite useful, as if someone turns the lock by hand/key, it does not change the state of the zwave:device:controller:nodexx:lock_door now. It seems that the switch works like toggle switch, everytime I change it in OH, the lock starts to move (locking if it was unlocked or unlocking if it wasn’t), but with no correlation between lock status and the switch state.

My lock is BTZW125 Danalock v2 circle.

[chris (Chris Jackson)]

If there was a lock_status channel in the past, I don’t know what it is as it doesn’t exist (and I think has never existed) in the code .

My Yale lock doesn’t send an update to the lock status when the door changes state which I agree is really anoying. It sends an alarm message which can be used to provide a status somewhere, but it probably can’t easily be linked to the door_lock channel.

If your device is sending a status update, then please let me know what it is and I’ll take a look.

@JjS

My lock is BTZW125 Danalock v2 circle

Sorry - I don’t have this device to test against.

[JjS (Jedrzej)]

I meant OH 1.9, there was an item linked to the status:
Contact Door_Status “Lock status [MAP(pl-lock.map):%s]” {zwave=“56:command=door_lock,refresh_interval=120”}

How can I pull the status in OH 2.X?

[chris (Chris Jackson)]

I guess you can do the same thing in OH2 - this is the same channel that you should have now (ie door_lock). It should be the same - if the device provides the information through an association etc, then it will update - if not, you need to use polling - same as OH1.

[JjS (Jedrzej)]

Frankly, I don’t know how to setup polling in OH2.

My OH 1.9 definitions that worked were:

Switch Door_Lock "Lock" <doorlock>  {zwave="88:command=door_lock"}
Contact Door_Status "Lock status [MAP(pl-zamek.map):%s]" <doorlock>  {zwave="88:command=door_lock,refresh_interval=120"}
Number Door_Corridor_Battery "Lock battery [%d %%]" { zwave="88:command=battery,refresh_interval=43200" }

Currently I have

Switch Door_Lock "Lock" <doorlock>  {channel="zwave:device:controller:node88:lock_door"}
Contact Door_Status "Lock status [MAP(pl-zamek.map):%s]" <doorlock>  {channel="zwave:device:controller:node88:lock_door"}
Number Door_Corridor_Battery "Lock battery [%d %%]" { channel="zwave:device:controller:node88:battery-level" }

But the status of the lock is not fed back to OH. I can read the battery status only.

[chris (Chris Jackson)]

@JjS

Frankly, I don’t know how to setup polling in OH2.

We discussed it over in the other thread -:

OH2 Z-Wave refactoring and testing... and SECURITY

Interesting - I wonder why I’m seeing requests more often then . I might need to take a deeper look at your log… I did find one device (node 68) that’s using a non-default value (10 minutes) but that’s not going to make a lot of difference… Polling time is set in the thing configuration - it’s applicable to all channels at the moment although I’ve just changed it not to poll channels that have no items linked… [image] So this device here? Strange that it seems to be requesting SE…

If it’s no working, then let’s get a debug log so we can see what is happening.

[JjS (Jedrzej)]

What log will be the most useful? Should I collect it from the OH start or after some time? Should I wait for the newer version of binding?

[chris (Chris Jackson)]

@JjS

What log will be the most useful?

Always the openhab log file with debug enabled.

@JjS

Should I collect it from the OH start or after some time?

Well we need to capture the polling of this device. This will happen during initialisation, or you could increase the polling and just grab another time which is likely to be easier (eg set the polling the 20 seconds, and then grab a minute from the log and it should be there).

@JjS

Should I wait for the newer version of binding?

No - nothing has changed.

[iiigoiii (bill c)]

Howdy all.

I’m hoping someone can provide a summary of the latest status on Z-wave locks. It seems like most of the info is in this thread, the “Z-wave (Schlage) Lock Support”, and the “Z-Wave refactoring and testing… and SECURITY” one, but that’s literally 700+ posts to read through.

Can anyone provide a step-by-step guide to getting a Z-wave lock included and working (mine is a Schlage BE469), including:

• can z-wave locks be used with OH 2.0 out of the box, without the security bindings
• is habmin needed to do the install, which version, and how to use it
• is the new 2.1.0 z-wave binding needed, and is it reliable
• how to install that binding
• what uninstalling/reinstalling of Things, bindings, etc. is needed
• what functionality will be there / missing

Or, just a pointer to a single post or shorter thread with a summary on it?

I want to shoot myself in the head after trying to plow through the posts on this for the last couple of nights!

Thanks in advance from a noob.

[shawnmix]

@iiigoiii - welcome! I would suggest that if you advertise as being a ‘noob’, you should definitely take the time to start from the top and scroll through the other topic. You will learn A LOT by reading through those comments. Even when it doesn’t make sense at first, when you get into the weeds of testing and using a newer and unsupported binding, you can navigate safely through and at least recall some things you read through. So my advice, definitely click on and read from the top on the referenced thread. At a minimum, you will need to find where the link is for the new binding.

@iiigoiii

Can anyone provide a step-by-step guide to getting a Z-wave lock included and working (mine is a Schlage BE469), including:

• can z-wave locks be used with OH 2.0 out of the box, without the security bindings

No, currently the ZWave binding included with the currently released versions of OH, DO NOT include support of the Security class for ZWave.

@iiigoiii

• is habmin needed to do the install, which version, and how to use it

I don’t know that HABmin is required, but in my opinion, it’s the better tool to use with this setup. I don’t believe there is a “version” of HABmin that is required. You should be able to just enable the binding and then the UI will appear on the drop page with the UI choices.

@iiigoiii

• is the new 2.1.0 z-wave binding needed, and is it reliable

Yes, it is required, and it is not “supported” in OpenHAB yet. Currently the thread you mentioned is the “support” for it and managed by a very generous contributor here @chris. He spends a lot of time and puts a lot of work into this for the good of the community. Please do your due diligence in reading and researching how to use the binding, locks, devices, etc, before trying to bombard him on that thread. Many things have already been handled and answered, and that thread is for folks testing this new binding and finding the bugs/issues with it. That said, don’t be scared to report something that doesn’t seem to be working as expected, and be prepared (aka learn how to) enable DEBUG logging and pull these logs.

@iiigoiii

• how to install that binding

Instructions for installation are outlined many time throughout the thread referenced. I’ll give you the short snippet version, but if something doesn’t make sense, please read through the thread. The search option is your friend to use keywords necessary to jump to what you need.

1. Uninstall the current ZWave binding if already installed
2. Verify the Serial binding IS installed (ZWave binding may remove it or if not installed it may be missing)
3. Remove existing ZWave Things (you can leave items and remap afterward)
4. Stop currently running OpenHAB instance
5. Download the latest test binding
6. Copy it into the /openhab/addons folder in your installation
7. Start OpenHAB
8. Verify ZWave binding is installed/available

@iiigoiii

• what uninstalling/reinstalling of Things, bindings, etc. is needed

See above

@iiigoiii

• what functionality will be there / missing

I don’t believe this is any missing functionality, there is only new more advanced functionality to support the Security Class for ZWave devices.

[iiigoiii (bill c)]

Thanks @shawnmix for the info, really appreciate it.

(Believe me - I did plow my way through the evolving info in those threads, and read everything I could find on the bindings & devices…hours & hours worth! There’s huge value in someone putting the pieces together in one place - I’ll do the same when I find out what works for me.)

My first question was not if the released zwave binding would work for security, but rather if locks could be used without the security bindings in the first place. Guessing not since I was able to associate the lock with OH as released, but it didn’t function.

I’m making slow progress anyway with the new binding, now have a secure association but the device is unknown, even though the device was known and correct under the 2.0.0 zwave binding. Will post about that in the other threads.