ZWave status under OH2

I’m still working to iron out the issue in ESH that will allow me to add support for configuring associations - I don’t want to release a binding for general use until this is sorted as it will just result in lots of problems when people can’t configure their devices.

Other than this issue, the binding is working quite well I think. I’m sure there are still some issues, but I’ve been running it here for the past month or more and it’s been running fine…

Hopefully in the next week or two, this issue will be resolved and I’ll start to release the new binding - it will take some time to get the database converted, so I’ll be looking for a few experienced users to test things out first before spending too much time converting the database files…

Hi Chris,

that sounds great for me! I’m in a new home - after furnishing it i will spend my spare time during winter in testing OH2.

I got much experience with OH1 - but i won’t spend much time more on my old setup.

My FritzAHA-Equipment runs quite well under OH2, but i never finished implementing my new Z-Wave devices in OH1:

  • Aeon Labs Z-Wave USB Controller

  • Aeon Labs 4 in One MultiSensor

  • Reitz/Düwi Schuko Plug Switch 054375

  • Fibaro Universal Binary Sensor FGBS001 (shown as unknown device under latest OH1.8 snapshot)

  • Fibaro RGBW Controller

  • Fibaro Relay Switch 1x2.5kW FGS221

Maybe that i can provide german translations for this devices after testing them. Meanwhile i bought a homee Z-Wave base station, but i’ll never have fun with that - because the german developer never gives their costumer the promised API-documentation to make it possible to implement it in openHAB.

Regards
Heiko

Hi Chris,

this is indeed great news. If you give us hints on how to convert the database files to fit the new format I’m sure that you’ll find more help than you can ask for. I for my part can test things with a couple of devices from different vendors like Fibaro, Devolo, Aeon Labs… Like Heiko I don’t want to invest any more time in my old OH1 setup.

Looking forward to the new binding

Paolo

Hi Chris,

thank you very much for your reply - much apprechiated :smile:

Chris, I did not seen any mention about Z-Wave Plus. For many users just beginning home automation, security is a top priority. I will not put a Z-Wave door lock on my new home unless it is secure. While there are few hardware options, they are beginning to show up and Westinghouse has a ZW+ lock that I will be purchasing soon. Will the new version of the ZW binding for OH implement security via Z-Wave Plus?

There is good progress being made. You may want to check out this thread: https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-schlage-lock-support/2341/111

Not in the initial version. While there is definately good progress being made by @dbadia, I think it will be a little while off yet. In the longer term (maybe a few months) then I really hope we can include this (should be ok I think :smile:).

This is documented here. However, I have a tool to convert the files from the old database, but more information is required - eg to provide something similar to the binding strings.

I don’t want to have everyone produce the database files yet though since if I have to make changes to the format, it could be a major waste of time. This is why I will try and get a couple of people running first to get the system a bit more testing before we go all the heavy lifting :smile:

Additional help once everything is initially tested would be greatly received… Of course, if people want to help, I’d also appreciate help with the OH1 database as there are always lots of requests for database inputs :smile:

I should have responded to this point, but just to be clear, ZWave+ is just the latest version of ZWave with increased range, and a few new features. So the current system works already with ZWave Plus (just not security). Of course there’s more classes that we might want to support (one day) that are new for ZWave Plus, but ZWave Plus is already supported…

@joshjones

For what it’s worth, you should decouple ZW+ and security as they have nothing to do with one another. Standard ZW supports security as does ZW+, but I’ve seen nothing to indicate that ZW+ has any additional security features

Go ahead and install one and use the key or keypad for now. They’re all (ZW and ZW+) secure by nature. ZW won’t allow locking/unlocking or much of anything over ZW unless the secure inclusion has taken place. They are, by design, secure whether you use the zwave functions or not.

Not trying to mince words, just looking to clear things up
Dave

Thank you Chris. In the meantime, is it safe to assume that it’s best to get a Z-Wave Plus door lock, and that when the security class is implemented fully in the OH binding, it can be securely operated? I really would prefer to use OpenHab since it’s open and has a strong community, and I may even be able to contribute.

Yes, if you want a zwave door lock, then your assumption seems correct… As above, it might be a few months off before this is fully integrated and stable, but clearly the guys are making great progress :smile:

Excellent, thanks Chris. I don’t mind waiting a few months, but I wouldn’t want to have to wait more than a year or so. Again, I will be happy to help test and troubleshoot and look at the code–my current plan is to get the Westinghouse RTS-Z lock, which seems to be maybe the only ZW+ lock actually available in a U.S. version. So when/if I get it, I’ll post and will be happy to test.

Dave, thanks so much, missed your post earlier. Just to be clear, you seem to saying that a lock is still a lock, and in that way is secure. However, unless included using the security class, z-wave won’t allow a potentially insecure operation (such as an unlock) to take place, using the z-wave network. Am I correct?

That’s exactly right. A smart design decision by the powers that be.

Also, regarding ZWave+, there is some good info about halfway down this page under “Important New Z-Wave Plus Developments”

http://www.cepro.com/article/why_z-wave_is_the_home_automation_market_leader_for_now

I’m a rookie at most of this stuff, mainly learning by reading what I can find, etc. But count me for testing. And I do have an Aeon RGBW light to try out the new COLOR command.

I really hope to get fully off of Phillips and multiple hubs in the home one day.

But I have a Aeon Zwave Stick, 1 Zwave lightbulb, and then a few switches and garage door monitor for now. Think rest of stuff including GE Bulbs and Phillips Hue is all Zigbee.

As I’m very much looking forward to control the colours on my Aeon bulbs, I’d be happy to do any testing as well.

Apart from the bulbs, I’ve got a number of other Z-Wave devices:

  • Razberry controller
  • Fibaro wall switches
  • Fibaro dimmer
  • Fibaro motion sensor
  • Greenwave 6-socket extension
  • Philio in-wall switch
  • Philio 3-in-1 sensors
  • Aeon Labs Multi Sensor (Gen 4 & Gen 5)

Let me know if there’s anything I can do!

Ard

Hi Chris,

What’s the news about the ZWave Binding on openhab2 ?
Don’t hesitate to send beta or alpha if you need some testers.

Best regards,

Pascal

The changes needed to support associations were merged into ESH last week and I’m in the process of adding more devices to the database to allow others to test the binding.

Hopefully this phase of testing will be completed in a week or two - assuming there’s no major issues :wink:

Chris

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Hey Chris,
How’s this going?
Do you need anyone running some tests? I’m happy to to help out in anyway I can.
Christian