# ZWAVE Zooiz ZST39 800 series controller compatibility

**URL:** <https://community.openhab.org/t/zwave-zooiz-zst39-800-series-controller-compatibility/154228>\
**Category:** Bindings\
**Tags:** zwave, openhab4\
**Created:** [February 28, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/zwave-zooiz-zst39-800-series-controller-compatibility/154228 "2024-02-28T19:37:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![rpwong](https://community.openhab.org/user_avatar/community.openhab.org/rpwong/32/36036_2.png) [@rpwong](https://community.openhab.org/u/rpwong)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.openhab.org/t/zwave-zooiz-zst39-800-series-controller-compatibility/154228/2 "2024-02-28T19:59:01Z")

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> [@jgreene](#):
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> This controller has ZERO buttons, it uses the Serial API to activate inclusion/exclusion modes and as near as I can tell the ZWave binding doesn’t do it. Am I mistaken?

You are mistaken. From the [docs](https://www.openhab.org/addons/bindings/zwave/#discovery):

> When the discovery process is started, the binding will put the controller into inclusion mode for a defined period of time to allow new devices to be discovered and added to the network.

If you need to exclude devices, you would do so from the thing for your controller.

 ![image](https://community-openhab-org.s3.dualstack.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/original/3X/4/5/4593ceb5a07c8b894452e83a270df72e060c925b.png)

Saying all of that, I’m not sure if 800-series controllers are supported by the 4.1.1 binding. You may need to update to a snapshot. @apella12, can you comment on this?

You could alternatively try Zwave-JS-UI (also thanks to @apella12’s efforts).

> [@Zwave-JS-UI in place of OH Zwave binding](https://community.openhab.org/t/zwave-js-ui-in-place-of-oh-zwave-binding/150007):
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> Update: Changed Title as not really a test anymore. Have run over 6 months on two systems this way (OH + ZUI) This idea started as a “proof of concept” to use Zwave-JS-UI (ZUI) instead of the OH Zwave (OHZ) binding. ZUI is an application on top of a Zwave-JS server application. I was not having any problems with the OHZ binding, but ZUI application natively supports 700 series controllers, S2 security and OTA firmware updates among other things. It is the Zwave provider for Home Assistant an…

> [@jgreene](#):
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> I know how to set the Aeotec to include mode, but since the 800 needs the serial API to issue the join/pair command as a SUC how can I do that?

This kind of highlights why the inclusion buttons on Aeotecs can be problematic. We would generally recommend starting inclusion from the binding, but many Aeotec users never learn this since the button is more convenient. That’s fine until they change controllers or try to add a door lock, because secure inclusion only works if initiated by software.

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