Not at all, it was bed time for the little one so my online time came to an end.
As am I. I still want templates. In the templates, I want links to instructions or at least instructions for how they can answer the questions in the templates. I think we are completely in agreement on this.
What I am arguing against is a template with 3-4 scenarios that requires the new user to read through a bunch of stuff to figure out which scenario applies to them, delete the rest, and then provided the asked for information. Most of the time I expect that most users will just use the first scenario every time, so why not just have one scenario and be done with it. In some cases, they may end up providing more information than we need but that really isn’t a problem as far as I’m concerned.
I think one of the keys will be providing the instructions for where/how to answer the questions inline or through links to the instructions.
I think this is addressed by the fact that when you create a new topic in the Beginner’s area the new topic gets pre-populated with the template and the user fills out the information. By having the template automatically apply they do not have to look anywhere and the mere fact that the template is there will encourage most (never all) to fill out the template as that will be easier than starting from scratch.
There is no solution that will completely solve this problem and I don’t think anyone here expects that this would solve it. But if we can easily provide some guidance to new users to help us help them perhaps we can reduce the amount of back and forth required to extract all the information we need to help the new users.