Bticino myHome Suite documentation and basics

the plug in configurators look like blade type fuses

you might have two defining A and Pl

The configurators are in the back. You can leave the button in place. Un-clip the plastic surround frame. Undo the revealed screws holding the metal wall plate to the wall and the whole unit should come out. You can see if any configurators are fitted through the see through cover next to the the BUS connector

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Warning !!! My Norton blocked the following url as known dangerous while looking for myHomeSuite download

bticino.co.id/myhome_suite

Anyone heard of a L4686SDK running “slow” in the “serial to Bus” direction?

My home automation system seems to be delivering the serial commands to the L4686SDK in rapid time, however the L4686SDK seems to take about a second or two to do its thing and then dump the resulting command onto the SCS bus.

In the other direction, any commands made by other controllers/devices on the SCS then deliver the messages through the L4686SDK and to the RS232 serial connection where my automation controller lives in record time.

It seems like the L4686SDK is doing well at “bus to serial” commands but is painfully slow with “serial to bus” commands (if that makes sense).

I’m finding it difficult to find any resources online for how to connect to it, log into it, configure it or anything else in between in order to do some fault finding.

Any advice/tips/hints from the peanut gallery?

Cheers,
Matt

Dear All,

I have a BT MyHome system with MH202 and I configured OpenHAB with the OpenWebNet binding. The system is working fine but I would like to improve it by configuring the project with MyHome Suite (it is working with the original configuration set by the installer, but I think there are several things that could be improved). I’m completely new to MHS and this thread is by far the best I could find on the web. I installed MHS 3.5.5 I was able to scan my system (found about 70 devices and the MH202). However, I can’t understand how to import the existing project in MHS and, most importantly, I can’t access the help file of MHS. MHS tells that there’s an update of the guide to download, but when it tries to download it an error occurs (looks like http://myhomeswupdate.bticino.com/MyHome_Suite/IT_MHS_function_0305.zip is no longer available) and I can’t access any help section.

Has anyone run into a similar problem?

Thanks

Hi,

I never use the help files but I just tried now and get the same error.

MyHomeSuite files are called plants. Within them are the devices. The one you need is MH202. Right mouse click on it and there should be options for import and export project as well as send and receive configuration. I never do much with project files except to back them up sometimes. It is the config you want. Select receive the config file. This will then be brought into your ‘project’ that is part of the MyHomeSuite .plant file. When you change anything in the config you then send the new config file. I think projects, . prj files, are for when you want to send or receive setups from someone else.

I use several plants to keep file sizes smaller and spread the risk if something went wrong. I have one just for MH202, another for Screen10 and another for all my other devices. You could also just have one with all your devices in the one plant

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Manual is here:
MH202 manual

So first step is to create a new plant. Then search using the scanner for the MH202 on your system. When you find it you the drag it over into the main area. Save the plant. Next step is to receive the configuration. Save the plant. Once you have it saved you can then open the config file to view it and make changes. After you have made the changes you want select save and then save the plant. Then send the new confguration to the MH202. You will need the IP address and the password for the MH202.

I keep saving the plant. I am old school and expect crashes :slight_smile: Also, sometimes MyHomeSuite messes up and sends an empty config files to the MH202 and not the one you just updated. That would be a disaster if you haven’t kept backups.

this thread is by far the best I could find on the web

BTicino used to have their own forum but pushed the end users off and aimed the forum at just dealers. Shame as there were a lot of knowledgeable people there but sometimes I see its not in BTicino’s business interest to encourage some of things we do or would like to do :slight_smile:

I then started my own ‘help and knowledge exchange’ type threads over on AV forums as an experiment but I and others didn’t like the forum there. I made a lot of guide like threads but eventually stopped posting there due to lack of support and lack of posters. In the meantime I started using openHAB and after a while I encouraged people landing on my old threads, like the OP searching for info, to start a new thread here as this place seemed to be where there are the biggest number of active end user experts. I had also run out of enthusiasm for initiaiting the ‘Info’ type threads and so here was another experiment to see if I there was enough interest for basic info type threads and if it was even OK to use openHAB forum for this :slight_smile:

ps openwebnet works great with openHAB. It can take your automation to a much higher level than just BTicino scenario controllers thanks to the great developers on here and the ability to combine many things into one functioning whole home automation epxerience

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The import and export functions are a bit weird at first sight, but in some way they make sense…
You have to look at it in a point of view from the side of the plant instead of from your view. This means that ‘download’ means importing changes into the plant and ‘upload’ means exporting things from the plant to somewhere else like your computer.
So, if you want to download the plant on your computer to work on it, you have to click on ‘export’…

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Thank you Mark and Yoeri, I’m working on the system and I am figuring out how it works. I imported all the devices. I saved the plant and now MHS let me to enter the configurationn page of MH202. I will try to make some changes to scenarios and upload back the plant. I hope I won’t mess up things.

Thank you.

G

Dear all,

Just found this post, i used to be on the BT forum but like you know they shut it down…

I have had a Myhome installation for 10 years now and very happy with it, during the Christmas break i did a major overall:

  • replaced all the parts that had no virtual config with new ones

  • replaced MH200N by MH202

  • added Myhomeserver 1

  • added F459

So far so good, but with all this changes, there are new “problems” also:

1- i have some F411/U2 that give problems in particular configuration eg: address A0PL1 and A0PL2

when PL1 turns on PL2 turn off and vice versa; no idea why, with other address problem goes away eg: A0PL1 and A0PL14 gives no problem, is this problem known?

2- I have (and had) some PIR sensors connected to F428 but not sure what is the best way to configure it with virtual how do you do that? Contact state? Aux? Cen?..
Function type F428

PIR gives an NC contact when contact opens light should go on for 5min when contact closes again light should go on for 30sec.

It worked really good in the past, but it was configured in conjunction with an “spare”actuator on the same address qs the F428, and with a scenario in the MH200N, so when the contact of the F428 opened that actuator went to ON the actuator connected to the light went on for 5min when, when the contact of the F428 closed again the actuator went to OFF and the light went on for 30sec. But i’m sure there is a way to do it without this second actuator.

PIR NC-> Contact F428 OPENS (=begin detection) -> actuator F411/U2 A1PL5 on 10min

PIR NC-> Contact F428 CLOSES (=end detection) -> actuator F411/U2 A1PL5 on 30sec

Any advice on that?

3-I have a specific light (stairs) that goes on according to the state of a F428 (configured as AUX1) which is a light sensor (scenario in the MH202). That part goes well. That same light should go off at 23h (scenario in the MH202) and i can’t get that light to go off, and this is such an easy CEN…

This light is on a 8x16A actuator BMSW1005 relay 4

Off course i can turn off that light manually that works.

I will probably find some new issue in the coming weeks :wink:

hi @jpcolin,
i also use myhome, my installation is about five years old and i have very most parts configured virtually (alarm is not possible to configure virtually).

i will try to give some information from my side:

when started i also realized problems with A0 - back then i thought it could be because of my presence-detectors (bmse3003) and so i just do not use any PL in ambient A0. (although the bmse3003 are configured only as cen)

and thats your second point: i did not like the long switch times (min 30 sec) for the presence detection. i configured all as cen and back then i had scenarios in my mh200n that switched timed-light on for 10sec, or whatever i wanted. i never used a “spare” actuator - not possible for a swabian :laughing:

your 3. point, don´t understand completely but as a hint: you let the light switch on then aux1 changes to on - correct? what happens when you send aux1 = off ? if the light switches off then you have to change the scenario you posted in the action part not switch off the light but switch off aux1

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Do you use BT sensors or sensor on a F428?

Normally the Cen should just send the command light ON once to switch the light ON.

no, becaus i cannot see a reason for that. the presence detector sends a cen-command when motion is recognized. i use this cen-command to start a cenario that switches timed-light on

correct, but wrote about “aux1” that switches the light on. normally i thought it should not be a problem if aux1 only recieves ON (and not OFF) - but the cenario you postet to switch off is simple and should work - even more when you say you can switch off manually (of is off-command an aux-off)?

Ok so you use a scs detector. could you share your scenario for detection?

my mh200n is quite empty, not one cenario left. at the moment i use a (very dirty self programmed) jython programm to monitor the btcino-bus and send any own-command to it. this i cannot share because too complicated to get this work (i am not a programmer and proud that i finally got it work for me). i hope soon will be the new binding able to work with cen-commands, contacts, … then many things will become easier.

but i will check if i find a old backup of my mh200n - perhaps i can send you a cenario from there, standby please…

ok i found something. the cenario for the timed light is quite simple:


at “start”

  • the first line is “if motion detctor detects motion”
  • the second line (cen21) is only a “simulated recognition” - this i used for example when i leave a room and switch off all lights there, then another cenario knows - the room must be left, so a person must now enter the corridor now, so the other cenario sends the cen21 to start light in corridor already before motion is detected.

at “only if”

  • the counter is for mode-setting, for example if i set the counter (with another cenario) to 0 then i can easily deactivate this cenario, only if the counter is set to 1 this cenario is able to trigger (i used more numbers: 2 for the same cenario but with longer timed light, 3 to leave the light straight on, …)
  • next line is lux - only if it is dark enough the cenario must trigger
  • then an OR-condition and again only if counter is set to use this cenario AND light is on - because otherwise it would not “retrigger” the cenario when light is already

and “action”

  • just the timed switching on for the light

(to keep it easy you can leave the simulated recognition and the counter away)

hope this helps

I used to use “mysweethome” to monitor the bus activity but it seems i can’t download it anymore?
Anyone has an easy solution to monitor activity?

Hi jpcolin,

you can download MySweetHome here: Download

I was able to install it on Windows 10. However, I’m not able to connect to the MH202 because it asks for the open password but I don’t know where to put it in the connection settings. Any hints?

Thanks.

PS: regarding your problem no.2 (the motion sensor connected to F428) I found this configuration in MH202 and is working properly with scenarios (I use it also with the timed light object):

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Of course I configure the item as a contact in OpenHAB to just get its state.

I found this but the download links don’t work anymore.

For problem2 i would be curious what scenario is ascociated with this configuration.
Could you share it?

Hi,

actually I downloaded it yesterday (after you post). I would attach it here but .zip files are not allowed (maybe you could try to download it with a vpn).

Here are two scenarios using the sensor (is a light sensor connected to F428, A3 PL 5):

and here used is a condition (i.e. dark outside) so that if the motion sensor (81) is ON a timed light is switched on.

Did you find out something about your problem no. 3? (the light that won’t switch off with the “hour” condition). I have a similar issue.

Thanks,

g

No still no luck! so weird! testing at the moment.
New scenario, with other light and it worked. strange that this partucular light does not switch off

thanks for the scenarios.