So if OH could act a occupancy sensing cluster, it could report occupancy based on the state of the item set by the rule template
I’m not yet sure that the X2S implements what is required. afaik it uses the First Alert app geofencing which may or may not be matter compliant. The FASTER I can dump the First Alert app, the BETTER.
So… thinking out loud
The binding could implement a thing that implements occupancy sensing cluster
The thing would have a channel for linking to an item that has the current state of occupancy
The generic-presence-detection can be used to set the state of the item
Hi, so Occupancy is supported in the Matter binding, but unfortunately your Thermostat only contains the “Thermostat” matter cluster, and does not have the “OccupancySensing” cluster. So the thermostat can not report occupancy events.
Not quite what I was thinking
The Thermostat is not the occupancy sensor.
The matter binding thing would link to an item that has the “occupancy status”.
The item state would be controlled by whatever presence mechanism is setup in OH
The Matter binding thing then would then only report occupancy events and the current state of the item as part of the matter bridge functionality
The matter binding would not be responsible for anything setting or changing the state of the item
There are many occupancy determination schemes and the binding would only be responsible for reporting the state of the item and the item change events
You have created a REALLY important binding and have no obligation to implement anything you don’t feel like. Thank you for that.
I’m not sure i’m following, are we talking about the Bridge side or Controller? There is not a “matter binding thing” per se, there are Matter things (the controller thing and attached device things like your thermostat) and then there is the bridge, which is not a thing.
The bridge does support exposing items as Occupancy Sensors, if thats your goal?
Well… bad news
According to Residio Customer support
The thermostat ONLY supports First Alert app geofencing.
At this time there is no information about additional matter support being made available.
No way in hell am I going to allow Residio to track my movements
Geofencing is just a feature of (primarily) mobile apps, your phone triggers a command to the device (usually through the manufacturer’s cloud) based on a rule in the app. There is likely no “geofencing” support built into the actual thermostat itself, or most hardware like it. You could do the exact same thing with the openHAB iOS app, setup a shortcut in the “shortcuts” app to send a command to an item (ON) and the setup an automation when you enter or leave an area that runs it.
I want the thermostat to run the scheduled program
Toggle between “Home” and “Away” scheduled programs
Have the toggle be controlled in a manner like you described
The Thermostat will only allow Residio’s cloud service to perform this function
I could disable all on device scheduling and set all scheduled/occupancy thermostat states with OH, but I’d like to have the thermostat run stand alone and only send temporary overrides and/or holds from OH. This decouples thermostat normal operation from requiring OH for normal operation.
The OwnTracks app (iOS and Android) and OH OwnTracks plugin along with the rule automations can automate Home/Away toggling with no 3rd party cloud needed.
Yeah, the device reports scheduling is not available over matter, which is the same for the Nest as well. Personally i only use openHAB for running my schedules, partly b/c i have a lot of thermostats, so its nice having one source of truth and an easy way to make changes through rules ( the schedule view in the Main UI is great for this)
