Configuration persistance and PaperUI bug

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Dear Community!

I have a chart in my sitemap which shows my family members phone’s battery level. Most of them was configured through Paper UI. Today when I restarted the system, these items were gone from this chart. When I opened the configuration in Paper UI, there were no parent group selected, so I think that’s why it is not working. However I couldn’t re-add the group to these items. When I select the group save it, it says that “Item updated”, but if I reopen the config page, no group is shown there. Is there anything I’m missing? Or just a bug?
I have read somewhere that I need to use persistance, otherwise these data is gone when restarting, but I have restarted several times these days and it didn’t had any problems like this…

Thanks

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Can you post your items definitions, bindings and the log, thanks

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Yes, here it is:

//Basic Items
DateTime Today "Today"

//Weather Items
Number   Temperature   "Forecast Temperature [%.1f °C]" <temperature> (TemperatureGroup, cTemp) {weather="locationId=home, type=temperature, property=current"}
Number   Temp_Feel     "Temperature feel [%.1f °C]" <temperature> (TemperatureGroup, cTemp) {weather="locationId=home, type=temperature, property=feel"}
Number   Humidity      "Humidity [%d %%]" <humidity>    (TemperatureGroup) {weather="locationId=home, type=atmosphere, property=humidity"}
String   Condition     "Condition [%s]"  <sun>   (TemperatureGroup)  {weather="locationId=home, type=condition, property=text"}
Number   Visibility    "Visibility [%.1f km]" <visibility> (TemperatureGroup) {weather="locationId=home, type=atmosphere, property=visibility"}
Number   Pressure      "Pressure [%.1f mb]"   <pressure> (TemperatureGroup) {weather="locationId=home, type=atmosphere, property=pressure"}
Number   Ozone         "Ozone [%d ppm]"  <sun>  (TemperatureGroup) {weather="locationId=home, type=atmosphere, property=ozone"}
Number   UV_Index      "UV Index [%d]"     <sun>        (TemperatureGroup) {weather="locationId=home, type=atmosphere, property=uvIndex, scale=0"}
Number   Wind_Speed    "Windspeed [%.1f km/h]" <wind> (TemperatureGroup)   {weather="locationId=home, type=wind, property=speed"}
Group cTemp

//Switches
Switch Sonoff "Kitchen Lights" <light> (gKitchen) [ "Lighting" ] {mqtt=">[mosquitto:cmnd/sonoff/power:command:*:default],<[mosquitto:stat/sonoff/POWER:state:default]" }
String HarmonyHubButton

String Sonoff_Lwt "Kitchen Lights LastWill: [%s]" <controls_round> { mqtt="<[mosquitto:tele/sonoff/LWT:state:MAP(reachable.map)]" }
Number Sonoff_RSSI "Kitchen Lights RSSI: [%d%%]" <controls_round> { mqtt="<[mosquitto:tele/sonoff/STATE:state:JSONPATH($.Wifi.RSSI)]" }
String Sonoff_Current_FW_Available "Current Sonoff-Tasmota Release [%s]" <sonoff_basic> (Sonoff_Maintenance) { http="<[tasmotaRelease:10000:JSONPATH($[0].name)]"}
String	Sonoff_Action "Sonoff Action" <sonoff_basic>

//Location
String KristofIPhone_LocationString "Kristof Location [%s]" <presence>
String ReKaIPhone_LocationString "Reka Location [%s]" <presence>
String EdinaIPhone_LocationString "Edina Location [%s]" <presence>
String BandiPhone_LocationString "Bandi Location [%s]" <presence>

//Entertainment
String Radio <radio>
String Sony { channel="harmonyhub:device:HarmonyHub:51475814:buttonPress" }
String Cisco { channel="harmonyhub:device:HarmonyHub:51081790:buttonPress" }

//Home and distance
Switch KristofIPhone_Home "Kristof Home or Away"
Switch ReKaIPhone_Home "Reka Home or Away"
Switch EdinaIPhone_Home "Edina Home or Away"
Switch BandiPhone_Home "Bandi Home or Away"
String Everyone_Home "Is Everyone at Home [%s]"  <presence>
Number battery_period <iphone>

Number BandiPhone_BatteryLevel "Bandi battery level [%d %%]" <battery> (iBattery) 
Location BandiPhone_Location
String BandiPhone_BatteryStatus "Bandi battery status"

However the other phone’s battery level are not in this item file, because it was set-up through PaperUI

The bindings which I use:

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Sorry, but I was unable to upload my log. Should I look for something in it and post it there?

Also it seems, that I can’t even add anything to a group through PaperUI

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You need to put the group item definition before the items belonging to that group

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The temperature graph is working good despite the group definition was after the items. However I don’t have that Group (iBattery) here in the items list, because I have added that group through PaperUI and also added these items (phone batteries) through PaperUI which is also not here…

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And now I have realised that all of the icons is gone after that restart which was set-up through PaperUI

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I recommend setting up your items in files and not through the UI, although you should not have that problem.

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Ok, I’ll try that. What is the easiest way? Deleting from PaperUI and adding a new item to the items file?

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Delete your items in the Paper UI and unlink the things
Then define your items by hand in an items file
You’ll have far more control over them

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Thanks, this solved the issue. Also other items which was set-up through PaperUI generated some error, I have added them in the items file, now these errors are gone!

Thanks

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Good, please like if you want and mark the thread as solved