Docs on how to backup openHAB

[Kim_Andersen]

@mstormi

Backup is not part of openHAB - it is a user’s task to contribute.

Which is why I started this thread. Thank you for at least understanding that part!
A small note though - Wether or not backup not being part of openhab, doest NOT mean it shouldn´t be documented in some way.
If backup is not part of openhab, where did the openhab-cli script´s, backup and restore came from ?

@mstormi

Oh dear. That is a fatally wrong and dangerous statement.

No it´s not. Its how you read it and fail to at least understand where this is getting at.
Noone wants to read about birds, when searcing for info about fishes. Its as simple as that.

@mstormi

Backup is a complex task but the term already is not a well-defined one.

Which is why documentation is highly important!

@mstormi

Any user must understand the eco-system of what he needs and wants to backup and why , when and how often , which filesystems , which files , which devices , which data that affects

Not really. The user who understand the term of backup is only interested in one thing - Be able to get back to some stage of history, before it went wrong, when restoring a backup. How the backup procedure works, which files etc, really isnt a concern, UNLESS the backup isnt backing up everything. This is why there is a need of my #1.

@mstormi

Amanda is a backup tool yes, but not part of openHAB. openhab-cli is part of openHAB yes but not a backup tool. It’s a multi-tool to include a config export function at best. Better don’t call that “backup”, please.

Come on… You´re really doing your best to destroy this thread, right?
If you have at least read my post, clicked the second link, you would have seen openhab-cli is mentioned as a backup-tool. This is NOT MY WORDS god damit! This is the documentation of openHAB:
" Use the openHAB integrated backup tool to interactively backup/restore your openHAB config [menu option 51/52]."

Click the god damn link for crist sake! And then tell me where you end up, and what exactly you´re beeing told from there. Perhaps you should start counting, how many times the word “backup” is mentioned in regard to openhab-cli backup. Then get off my neck with your stupidity about ME not understanding. Its simply impossible to understand, how openhab-cli backup and restore, should not be called “backup” according to you!

@mstormi

As OH essentially runs on anything capable of running java, it is close to impossible to just list(!) let alone describe all of the HW/OS combinations, let alone to describe all the backup variations there.

So according to you, because you believe it´s impossible to list, openhab is better off with nothing…
Sweat!

@mstormi

even must not be part of openHAB documentation because backup is not part of openHAB as I explained above.

Perhaps you should make up your mind.
Is openhab-cli backup and restore script part of openhab? This is a simple yes/no question.
Next, is openhab-cli backup mentioned as a backup-tool? This is a simple yes/no question.

@mstormi

It should link to a backup “menu” ??? No it should not. Docs have no “menu”. I assume you mean a chapter or paragraph ?

Press the link to the docs, and tell me what you see on the left side. Thats menu´s in my world… You world seem a whole lot different… I really dont care. I´ll bet you, that most people will call it menu´s, except you ofcouse!

@mstormi

You also need to understand this is different people to contribute - person A to write the tool but he has no access to the docs, and person B to do all docs but to know nothing about the tool other than what person A tells him (or not in this case).

This is not something I need to understand. This is the reason I started this thread. And for now, you dont seem to have contributed with anything, except trying to ruin it.

@mstormi

What the heck are you talking about? Again, there is no “menu”. openhab-cli usage is linked to in item 3 of the list.

You´ll never be able to understand. So I wont try explain this to you, again!