Eurotronic Spirit - Unsupported mode type 31

[kristofejro (Kris)]

Thank you guys for your help

I just missed “magic command” to be executed in console. This thread is so long and I wanted to read it all before posting.
After your suggestions I have managed to solve the problem.

Thank you again!

[Dominik_Jeziorski]

Hi,

Winter came and the Spirit started to live with its own life again - my wife is telling mi to get rid of those . I moved to OH3 but it seems that mode 31 is still disabled.

I’m trying to test it using simple rules - I send the command to switch to manual mode but it responds with error about unsupported mode.

Is there a “proper” way of switching it to manual control? Basic channel is not available in OH3.

2021-01-23 18:17:52.027 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemCommandEvent      ] - Item 'GabinetGrzejnikNode10_Thermostatmode' received command 31

2021-01-23 18:17:52.055 [INFO ] [penhab.event.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - Item 'GabinetGrzejnikNode10_Thermostatmode' predicted to become 31

2021-01-23 18:17:52.075 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemStateChangedEvent ] - Item 'GabinetGrzejnikNode10_Thermostatmode' changed from 1 to 31

==> /var/log/openhab/openhab.log <==

2021-01-23 18:17:52.080 [ERROR] [lass.ZWaveThermostatModeCommandClass] - NODE 10: Unsupported mode type 31

2021-01-23 18:17:52.084 [WARN ] [nverter.ZWaveThermostatModeConverter] - NODE 10: Generating message failed for command class = COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_MODE, endpoint = 0

[Morgano (Jeremy Morgan)]

It’s working fine for me in OH3. The basic endpoint should be available.

I’m sending 0xFE to the ‘basic_basic_number’ endpoint:

Item:

Number  KitchenTrvThermostatBasic "Basic endpoint" {channel="zwave:device:65ff760b:node6:basic_basic_number"}

Rule:

logInfo("Kitchen", "Setting TRV to 'Manufacturer specific' mode")
KitchenTrvThermostatBasic.sendCommand(0xFE)

Then I control the TRV by sending the valve open % to the ‘switch_dimmer’ endpoint.

Dimmer KitchenTrvValvePosition "Kitchen TRV valve position"{channel="zwave:device:65ff760b:node6:switch_dimmer"}

KitchenTrvValvePosition.sendCommand(50.0)

You don’t have an old JAR lurking in your addons folder do you?

[Bruce_Osborne]

@Morgano

You don’t have an old JAR lurking in your addons folder do you?

Or try deleting (NOT excluding from the network) & re-discovering the Thing in OH to be sure it has the latest settings from the binding.

[Dominik_Jeziorski]

I think I have cleaned up everything although I was migrating from 2.5 not reinstalling from scratch.

I recently was adding new Thing as it went in to locked state and I had to reset it to defaults as nothing else worked. After adding it as fresh it has Basic endpoint (rest of my old migrated things doesn’t have it - seems that starting from scratch would set up things properly).

Anyhow I tried with this channel here are the results:

2021-01-23 20:52:26.424 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemCommandEvent      ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_BasicDeprecated' received command 31

2021-01-23 20:52:26.447 [INFO ] [penhab.event.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_BasicDeprecated' predicted to become 31

2021-01-23 20:53:41.417 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemCommandEvent      ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_Dimmer' received command 50

2021-01-23 20:53:41.430 [INFO ] [penhab.event.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_Dimmer' predicted to become 50

2021-01-23 20:53:41.439 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemStateChangedEvent ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_Dimmer' changed from 0 to 50

2021-01-23 20:53:43.014 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemStateChangedEvent ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_Dimmer' changed from 50 to 0

This haven’t changed anything it was still in Heat mode.

Then I tried to send raw value

2021-01-23 20:55:59.775 [WARN ] [ule.handler.ItemCommandActionHandler] - Command '0xFE' is not valid for item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_BasicDeprecated'.

I’m using this new rules engine for experiments - not sure if this matters

[Dominik_Jeziorski]

@Morgano thanks for the tip I found the solution! When I went to old rules engine (application/vnd.openhab.dsl.rule)

And I did execute

LucjaNode017Grzejnik_BasicDeprecated.sendCommand(0xFE)

2021-01-23 21:06:51.273 [INFO ] [openhab.event.RuleUpdatedEvent      ] - Rule '150f3fa9a0' has been updated.

2021-01-23 21:06:56.286 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemCommandEvent      ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_BasicDeprecated' received command 254

2021-01-23 21:06:56.306 [INFO ] [penhab.event.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_BasicDeprecated' predicted to become 254

2021-01-23 21:06:56.319 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemStateChangedEvent ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_BasicDeprecated' changed from 31 to 254

Then dimmer started to work!

2021-01-23 21:07:55.521 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemCommandEvent      ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_Dimmer' received command 50.0

2021-01-23 21:07:55.534 [INFO ] [penhab.event.ItemStatePredictedEvent] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_Dimmer' predicted to become 50.0

2021-01-23 21:07:55.545 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemStateChangedEvent ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_Dimmer' changed from 20 to 50.0

2021-01-23 21:07:57.197 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemStateChangedEvent ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_Currenttemperature' changed from 22.56 °C to 22.47 °C

2021-01-23 21:08:09.989 [INFO ] [openhab.event.ItemCommandEvent      ] - Item 'LucjaNode017Grzejnik_Dimmer' received command 21

Now that it works the question is did anyone implemented already any type of simple controller (kind of PID rule updated every X min). When I looked at implementations the actual PID regulators and started to think about one for heating is not as straight forward compared to usages when there is really quick change output values. With the room of size 12m2 setting up the dimmer to 100% will change the temp after 10min and then there is question how frequently to uptdate the dimmer.

[Morgano (Jeremy Morgan)]

@Dominik_Jeziorski There is a new experimental PID Controller available here:

New Automation: PID Controller

This introduces a PID controller for openHAB. It is based on the work of @george.erhan and @hilbrand. A PID controller can be used for closed-loop controls. For example: Heating: A sensor measures the room temperature. The PID controller calculates the heater’s valve opening, so that the room temperature is kept at the setpoint. Lighting: A light sensor measures the room’s illuminance. The PID controller controls the dimmer of the room’s lighting, so that the illuminance in the room is kep…

I have used it on my TRVs and it is working really well. It uses the new GUI Rule Engine but will work in conjunction with Rules DSL rules. Read through the whole thread before doing anything.

I have set my PIDs to loop every 60s which may be too fast but I am still tweaking things at the moment.

[Dominik_Jeziorski]

Wow! Thanks.

[Dominik_Jeziorski]

Based on PID implementation I made tutorial how to use Spirits with manual mode - I hope that will be usable for others seeking solution for problems with those.

Set up house heating using Eurotronic Spirit actuators with PID control and "manual" control

This will be a tutorial on how to set up heaters using Eurotronic Spirit actuators with PID regulator forum / documentation link. For tldr; go to Current implementation section Let me first share a bit of history why it ended like below. It was November 2018 when I first thought - “My wife is fiddling with regulators whole winter. It would be nice to have automation doing it.” (I’m not so sure I would start that jurney again ) So I read a bit and thought it’s doable (winter is comming)…