HomeKit: support for additional accessory types

TuxTux · October 20, 2019, 11:20am

Hello?

No one can help?

yfre · October 22, 2019, 11:01am

i have more than 5 blinds working correctly (actually 12 in total), so, there is no limit
the things definition looks good as well. can you paste you complete items definition ?

pls. check whether you can control your blinds via paperui http://:8080/paperui/index.html#/control

here are my config.
.thing
Thing device JAL0810_01 “Rolladenaktor 1”@“KNX” [
address=“1.0.4”,
fetch=false,
pingInterval=300,
readInterval=3600
] {
Type rollershutter : channel_a “Kanal A” [ upDown=“3/1/1”, stopMove=“3/2/1”, position=“3/3/1+<3/5/1”]
Type rollershutter : channel_b “Kanal B” [ upDown=“3/1/0”, stopMove=“3/2/0”, position=“3/3/0+<3/5/0”]
Type rollershutter : channel_c “Kanal C” [ upDown=“3/1/2”, stopMove=“3/2/2”, position=“3/3/2+<3/5/2”]
}

.items

    Rollershutter terrace_blinds_l       "Terrase Rollladen Links [%d %%]"       <rollershutter>  (gWohnzimmer)   ["WindowCovering"] {channel="knx:device:scn_ip:JAL0810_01:channel_a"}
    Rollershutter dinning_blinds         "Essen Rollladen [%d %%]"               <rollershutter>  (gWohnzimmer)   ["WindowCovering"] {channel="knx:device:scn_ip:JAL0810_01:channel_b"}
    Rollershutter terrace_blinds_r       "Terrase Rollladen Rechts [%d %%]"      <rollershutter>  (gWohnzimmer)   ["WindowCovering"] {channel="knx:device:scn_ip:JAL0810_01:channel_c"}

TuxTux · October 22, 2019, 6:15pm

Hey @yfre,

thanks you for your reply. Here are more informations

Switch  HWR_Licht                "HWR Decke Licht [%s]"           <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_A" }
Switch  Flur_Licht               "Flur Decke Licht [%s]"          <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_B" } 
Switch  Kueche_Licht_1           "Küche Decke Licht [%s]"         <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_C" }
Switch  Kueche_Licht_2           "Küche Arbeitsplatte Licht [%s]" <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_D" }
Switch  Wohnzimmer_Licht_links   "Wohnzimmer Licht Links [%s]"    <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_E" }
Switch  Wohnzimmer_Lichts_rechts "Wohnzimmer Licht Rechts [%s]"   <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_F" }
Switch  Gaestezimmer_Licht       "Gästezimmer Decke Licht [%s]"   <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_G" }
Switch  Bad_Licht_1              "Bad Decke Licht [%s]"           <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_H" }
Switch  Bad_Licht_2              "Bad Spiegel Licht [%s]"         <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_I" }

Dimmer Esszimmer_Licht           "Esszimmer Tisch"                <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Dimmaktor_4Fach:D_Ch_A" }
Dimmer Wohnzimmer_Licht          "Wohnzimmer Decke"               <light> ["Lighting"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Dimmaktor_4Fach:D_Ch_B" }

Rollershutter Shutter_EG_HWR_1 "Rollo HWR Links [%d %%]"  [ "Blinds" ] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:Rollo_A:R_CH_A" }
Rollershutter Shutter_EG_HWR_2 "Rollo HWR Rechts [%d %%]"  ["Blinds"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:Rollo_B:R_CH_B" }
Rollershutter Shutter_EG_Kitchen "Rollo Küche [%d %%]" ["Blinds"]  { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:Rollo_C:R_CH_C" }
Rollershutter Shutter_EG_Esszimmer_1 "Rollo Esszimmer Links [%d %%]" ["Blinds"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:Rollo_D:R_CH_D" }
Rollershutter Shutter_EG_Esszimmer_2 "Rollo Esszimmer Rechts "  ["Blinds"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:Rollo_E:R_CH_E" }
//Rollershutter Shutter_EG_Wohnzimmer_1 "Rollo Esszimmer Rechts "  ["Blinds"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:F:R_CH_F" }
//Rollershutter Shutter_EG_Wohnzimmer_2 "Rollo Esszimmer Rechts "  ["Blinds"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:Rollo_G:R_CH_G" }
//Rollershutter Shutter_EG_Gaeste_1 "Rollo Gästezimmer links" ["Blinds"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:Rollo_H:R_CH_H" }
//Rollershutter Shutter_EG_Gaeste_2 "Rollo Gästezimmer rechts" ["Blinds"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:Rollo_I:R_CH_I" }
//Rollershutter Shutter_EG_Badezimmer "Rollo Badezimmer" ["Blinds"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:Rollo_J:R_CH_J" }

You are using [“WindowCovering”] instead of [“Blinds”], is there a reason why?

Which homekit version you are using?

Controling over PaperUI is working with more then 5, but when im using [“Blinds”] definition for Homekit it is going wrong

yfre · October 23, 2019, 9:05am

Blinds and WindowCovering are synonyms. “blinds” is older tag and “windowCovering” is new and is more inline with apple homekit terms. as of now both can be used and are working in the same way.

i have custom build of homekit addon with latest fixes for ios13. but blinds are working for me since more than 1 year.

in the source code of addon i dont see anything that would explain your issue… it would either work or dont work, but not working for 5 but not for more than 6.

so, it should be something wrong with items config. could you pls try to add “[%d %%]” to all your blinds.

TuxTux · October 23, 2019, 8:59pm

Hey,

i formated my SD and will start from a fresh setup. Do the blinds working in stable setup with homekit installed over PaperUI or do i have to use a modified version of homekit?

I will post my fresh and clean .item and .thing files.

TuxTux · October 25, 2019, 5:17pm

Hey, i’m totaly desperate. It won’t work. i can add lights as many as possible but WINDOWCOVERING is not working for more then 5 windows. That is realy frustrating. I moved from fhem to try something new because i like the HabPanel und PanelUI but never mind that it is so complicated to simple add more than 5 Blinds which are working over the controlpanel to get working in homekit addon.

yfre · October 26, 2019, 7:29pm

if you still want to try with openhab, please try a different orders of blinds. homekit is extremely picky about many things, maybe the name of the blind number 6 has some wrong in the configuration. so, move it to the end and try another blind as number 6.
as i mentioned, i have 12 blinds working with homekit since more than 1 year without any issues…

TuxTux · October 28, 2019, 10:01pm

Hey,

i still try to get it working. What i figured out is that is realy shutter dependend . But i did not find the failure. I also checked my KNX configuration and can’t find a failure. I manualy read out the GA’s and checked the positions’s and also controlled my blinds.

But here we go:

knx.things

Bridge knx:ip:MDT_IPG [  
    ipAddress="10.0.0.10", 
    type="TUNNEL", 
    portNumber=3671, 
    readingPause=50, 
    responseTimeout=10, 
    readRetriesLimit=3, 
    autoReconnectPeriod=1,
    localSourceAddr="0.0.0"
]{
    Thing device MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1 "Schaltaktor 1"@"KNX" [
        address="1.1.3",
        fetch=false,
        pingInterval=300,
        readInterval=0
    ]{
        Type switch : S_Ch_A     "Kanal A"       [ ga="1/1/0+<1/1/1" ]
        Type switch : S_Ch_B     "Kanal B"       [ ga="1/1/5+<1/1/6" ]
        Type switch : S_Ch_C     "Kanal C"       [ ga="1/1/10+<1/1/11" ]
        Type switch : S_Ch_D     "Kanal D"       [ ga="1/1/15+<1/1/16" ]
        Type switch : S_Ch_E     "Kanal E"       [ ga="1/1/20+<1/1/21" ]
        Type switch : S_Ch_F     "Kanal F"       [ ga="1/1/25+<1/1/26" ]
        Type switch : S_Ch_G     "Kanal G"       [ ga="1/1/30+<1/1/31" ]
        Type switch : S_Ch_H     "Kanal H"       [ ga="1/1/35+<1/1/36" ]
        Type switch : S_Ch_I     "Kanal I"       [ ga="1/1/40+<1/1/41" ]
    }
    Thing device MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_1 "Rolladenaktor 1"@"KNX" [
        address="1.1.6",
        fetch=false,
        pingInterval=300,
        readInterval=0
    ] 
    {
        Type rollershutter : R_CH_A "HWR Links"     [ upDown="3/1/0", stopMove="3/1/1", position="5.001:3/1/6+<3/1/3" ]
        Type rollershutter : R_CH_B "HWR Rechts"    [ upDown="3/1/10", stopMove="3/1/11", position="5.001:3/1/16+<3/1/13" ]
        Type rollershutter : R_CH_C "Kueche"        [ upDown="3/1/20", stopMove="3/1/21", position="5.001:3/1/26+<3/1/23" ]
        Type rollershutter : R_CH_D "Essen Links"   [ upDown="3/1/30", stopMove="3/1/31", position="5.001:3/1/36<+3/1/33" ]
        Type rollershutter : R_CH_E "Essen Rechts"  [ upDown="3/1/40", stopMove="3/1/41", position="5.001:3/1/46<+3/1/43" ]
        Type rollershutter : R_CH_H "Gaeste Rechts" [ upDown="3/1/80", stopMove="3/1/81", position="5.001:3/1/86<+3/1/83" ]
    }
    
    Thing device MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_2 "Rolladenaktor 2"@"KNX" [
        address="1.1.7",
        fetch=fasle,
        pingInterval=300,
        readInterval=0
    ] 
    {
        Type rollershutter : R_CH_I "Gaeste Links"  [ upDown="3/1/70", stopMove="3/1/71", position="5.001:3/1/73+<3/1/76" ]
        Type rollershutter : R_CH_J "Gaeste WC"     [ upDown="3/1/90", stopMove="3/1/91", position="5.001:3/1/93+<3/1/96" ]
    }
}

knx.items


Switch  HWR_Licht                "HWR Decke Licht [%s]"           <light> (Erdgeschoss_Beleuchtung)  ["Lighting"]    { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_A" }
Switch  Flur_Licht               "Flur Decke Licht [%s]"          <light> (Erdgeschoss_Beleuchtung)  ["Lighting"]    { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_B" } 
Switch  Kueche_Licht_1           "Küche Decke Licht [%s]"         <light> (Erdgeschoss_Beleuchtung)  ["Lighting"]    { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_C" }
Switch  Kueche_Licht_2           "Küche Arbeitsplatte Licht [%s]" <light> (Erdgeschoss_Beleuchtung)  ["Lighting"]    { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_D" }
Switch  Wohnzimmer_Licht_links   "Wohnzimmer Licht Links [%s]"    <light> (Erdgeschoss_Beleuchtung)  ["Lighting"]    { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_E" }
Switch  Wohnzimmer_Lichts_rechts "Wohnzimmer Licht Rechts [%s]"   <light> (Erdgeschoss_Beleuchtung)  ["Lighting"]    { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_F" }
Switch  Gaestezimmer_Licht       "Gästezimmer Decke Licht [%s]"   <light> (Erdgeschoss_Beleuchtung)  ["Lighting"]    { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_G" }
Switch  Bad_Licht_1              "Bad Decken Licht [%s]"          <light> (Erdgeschoss_Beleuchtung)  ["Lighting"]    { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_H" }
Switch  Bad_Licht_2              "Bad Spiegel Licht [%s]"         <light> (Erdgeschoss_Beleuchtung)  ["Lighting"]    { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Schaltaktor_20Fach_1:S_Ch_I" }



Rollershutter EG_Hausw_a "HWR Links [%d %%]"    ["WindowCovering"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_1:R_CH_A" }
Rollershutter EG_Hausw_b "HWR Rechts [%d %%]"   ["WindowCovering"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_1:R_CH_B" }
Rollershutter EG_Kueche  "Kueche [%d %%]"       ["WindowCovering"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_1:R_CH_C" }
Rollershutter EG_Essz_a  "Essen Links [%d %%]"  ["WindowCovering"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_1:R_CH_D" }
Rollershutter EG_Essz_b  "Essen Rechts [%d %%]" ["WindowCovering"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_1:R_CH_E" }
Rollershutter EG_Gast_b  "Gaeste Rechts [%d %%]"["WindowCovering"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_1:R_CH_H" }
Rollershutter EG_Gast_a  "Gaeste Links [%d %%]" ["WindowCovering"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_1:R_CH_I" }
Rollershutter EG_Bad     "Gaeste WC [%d %%]"    ["WindowCovering"] { channel="knx:device:MDT_IPG:MDT_Jalousieaktor_8Fach_1:R_CH_J" }

What i figured out is, R_CH_A, R_CH_B and R_CH_C are working perfect. The other one not. In the Home App is showing the blinds but they are showing the hole time Refreshing.

May be there is a homekit guru and can help?!

Best Regards

Sebastian

yfre · October 28, 2019, 11:29pm

config looks good. so, in home app you see all blinds but only 3 of them are working, right? or you see only 3?
which IOS version you have?

and one more thing to try:
could you put R_CD_D on the same knx channel as R_CH_C, i.e.
Type rollershutter : R_CH_D "Essen Links" [ upDown="3/1/20", stopMove="3/1/21", position="5.001:3/1/26+<3/1/23" ]

would it make “Essen Links” work?

TuxTux · October 29, 2019, 10:12pm

Hey Eugen, thanks for your reply. We are making progress. After i post my config yesterday i restarted openhab and now R_CH_A, R_CH_B and R_CH_C are working. D, E and H not. I and J (other device) also working.

your questions:

All Devices are shown in Home App.
IOS 13.1.3

I put D to channel C… not working! (Essen Links is not working)

D, E and H are also the 3 which are not working. Very Very strange. I can control the 3 ones over Paper UI but the status is not shown. Open and Close is shown in the Home App, but i can not control them over the Home App. I think there is going something totaly wrong.

Is there a way to see what is going on there? like a debug output?

Best Regards

Sebastian

yfre · November 17, 2019, 9:10pm

Hey Sebastian,
have you solved the issue?
if not, i have an idea.
pay attention to “<” in your config

working one have
position=“5.001:3/1/26+<3/1/23”

not working one have
position=“5.001:3/1/36<+3/1/33”

i.e. put “+” first and than “<”

best regards
eugen

TuxTux · November 17, 2019, 10:09pm

Hey Eugen, you got it. what a stupid mistake. I kill the hole setup and create a new one. First of all without HomeKit. But i still have the failure because i copied the config.

Will try to integrate the other blinds now and if everything is working on sitemap and paper ui i activate homekit again. Btw, is there a good tutorial of setting up a dev enviroment to compile HomeKit yourself?

Thank you very much dir your help so far.

Beat Regards.

Sebastian

gegy · April 5, 2020, 9:04pm

Can somebody help me on this too? I can see the my 4 blinds in Home Kit but they they do not open or close when I change them. In OpenHab App they work as expected. They also show the percentage and receive the percentage value when i open or close the the shutter in openhab app. E.g. if I stop the shutter at 50%, HomeKit shows 50%
My thing for a roller shutter is:

Type rollershutter : rolloEsszimmer1 "Rollo bei Küche" [ upDown="1/0/0", stopMove="1/0/1", position="1/0/8+<1/0/13" ]

Any my item

Rollershutter   rolloEsszimmer1     "Rollo Küche [%d %%]"               <rollershutter>     (EG_Kueche, gShutters)             ["WindowCovering"]   { channel="knx:device:bridge:generic:rolloEsszimmer1" }

Can someone explain the knx group addresses position=“1/0/8+<1/0/13”
What should be the first group address (1/0/8)
What should be the second group address (1/0/13)
What does the < mean?

I also have a switch for a light, this works perfekt.

I have installed misc-homekit - 2.5.3 and iOS 13.4

avdlee · April 7, 2020, 7:58am

The first GA is the absolute position of your rollershutter.
So if you set it to 15% in openhab, the actuator will rotate your shutter to 15%.

The second GA (including the < ) is to update the position value of your OpenHAB Rollershutter item.
This GA should be bound to the position feedback channel of your actuator.
So if you open/close your shutter (via OpenHAB or knx switch or any way else) the position of the shutter will be broadcasted via the feedback channel.
This way OH is always in sync with the actual position.

AFAIK: the < sign means that it is an incoming (status) value

gegy · April 7, 2020, 8:22am

Thank you very much avdlee. This is the best explanation i ever got for this. So i will check if i am using the right GAs.
At the moment i am switching my home-server and so i did an update to the new knx and homekit binding. I have to check my things (file) configuration if i did something wrong. In the post from TuxTux i noticed that he uses a thing for every knx device. I did not. Maybe this is an issue in my things config.
Thank you again for this perfect explanation on the GAs.

gegy · April 7, 2020, 7:01pm

I found that I did a mistake in my knx shutter device in not enabling the option to set a position for the shutter. Now it works perfekt with HomeKit.