Looking for the best z-wave controller for Raspberry Pi 4

No.

I’d be surprised if that changes anything. The known issue with these particular sticks is that the RPi4 attempts to communicate with them as USB3 devices and fails. That’s why a USB2 hub is considered to be a quick and reliable solution.

EDIT: I see now that this is an offshoot from another discussion. I’d forgotten about the resistor hack.

do you I need to use z-way binding?

No, you may use the zwave binding.

and the last question. I live in a 3 floor house. The server is in a basement. Do you think the small UZB will manage the distance between z-wave nodes?
I just found these:

would you consider these if you had to choose the controller again?

Distance is never an issue as the zwave network will build a mesh network with all mains powered devices.
You just have to buy enough mains powered devices and place them accordingly.

As already said before: openHAB does not support 700 series controllers

ups. thanks for the warning again.
I found these two:


is it worth to invest in the one with z-way controller SW on it?

If you want to use the z-way binding, you will need a license which is included in the expensive uzb controller.
If you want to use the zwave binding, you can stick to the cheaper one.

There is a limit to the number of hops from Z-Wave controller to Z-Wave device: IIRC 4 hops.

I don’t think a private house will be that big.

Controller in basement, device on the 3rd floor, no way to define routes manually: might be a problem (connectivity and/or latency). Solution would be obvious: Place the controller on the 1st or 2nd floor …

The reason for keeping the controller in basement is a common server place supported by Power Backup UPs. At the moment with the bigger Aeotec USB controller it works. I have 35 z-wave nodes on different floors. At each floor there is at least one powered node with 230V (Shutter controller from FIBARO) what i believe makes the signal stronger.

What additional value brings this z-way software exactly in compression to OpenHAB? I am not a professional who understands the z-wave protocol itself but if this will help me to configure my network more stable and reliable or faster maybe it is worth to invest?

No idea, I have never used it.
I recommend to search the forum for answers.

Can you share more details on your network configuration? How many nodes you have (powered/battery). What is your hous/flat structure? Do you use zwave repeaters? Maybe such a device would help in my case.
Do you have problems with including/excluding nodes?
What tools you use to debug the z-wave network, if any?

I decided to try out UZB without the z-way license. Rely on you experience @sihui :slight_smile:

Re debugging:

Use the Z-Wave Network Map
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to get a basic idea about the neighbors of each Z-Wave device. Note that the relationships in the Network Map do not necessarily correspond to routes of the Z-Wave packets. The routing is done by the Z-Wave controller and AFAIK the routes cannot be overridden by the user. You might consider using Zigbee, IIRC max hop is 10 (30 for Zigbee Pro). But if your Z-Wave network spans 4 flloors and you cannot get it to work reliably, I would place the Z-Wave controller on the first or second floor (even if you would have to install additional hardware (UPS, …), it is cheaper than replacing Z-Wave with Zigbee :slight_smile: ).

Thanks for this post.

this is true indeed. Let me check if it works from basement and then eventually move one floor up

25 total, 16 mains powered, 9 battery powered.

2 story, all solid brick, also the inner walls. Around 140 squaremeters.

As said before: zwave is building a mesh network, all mains powered devices are repeaters.

No, never, not even with battery powered devices.

Never had to debug anything, it is just working :grinning:

thx. Let me wait for my new UZB Stick and try it out

Don’t forget an extension cable: