New z-wave device needed and existing device to be renamed

Thanks, makes sense. I’ll move 0702:0261 from the VRCS4 to the VRCZ4, and also add a comment to both devices.

I’m pretty sure it’s a mains device. Maybe he should exclude it, factory reset the device, then include again.

Ok, I made the changes to the database…

It could be that the device that wasn’t initializing was flaky. I did try another of my VRCZ4-M0 (rocker switch) devices and it is showing up as 001D:0702:0261::0.2. When I push the rocker switch (both left or right), I get the following messages in the log:

2018-09-21 09:04:39.081 [WARN ] [tocol.commandclass.ZWaveCommandClass] - NODE 11: Unsupported command class REMOTE_ASSOCIATION_ACTIVATE

2018-09-21 09:04:39.088 [WARN ] [tocol.commandclass.ZWaveCommandClass] - NODE 11: Unknown command class 0x91

What does the Thing show in Paper UI or HABmin? It should be showing up as a VRCS4, which is incorrect. I made the change in the DB so that it will discover as a VRCZ4, but that change is not included in the zwave binding yet.

Can you put the binding into debug mode and then post the debug log from when you push a button?

It is showing up as an unknown device. The properties are:

zwave_class_basic STATIC_CONTROLLER
zwave_class_generic REMOTE_CONTROLLER
zwave_frequent false
zwave_neighbours 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12
zwave_version 0.2
zwave_listening true
zwave_deviceid 609
zwave_nodeid 11
zwave_routing true
zwave_beaming false
zwave_class_specific NOT_USED
zwave_manufacturer 29
zwave_devicetype 1794

I am new to openHAB, can you tell me how to put the binding in debug mode?

It may be showing up as Unknown because, even though it’s in the database, it might not have been in the database when the OH release was built. You’re on 2.3, right? That’s pretty dated at this point (May, I think).

Until you’re running a version of the binding that includes this device, you won’t be able to do anything with it.

There’s a way to switch from an OH release version to a snapshot version, but I don’t know how to do that. There’s also a new release process called milestone builds, which are intended to be a good compromise between full releases and snapshots.

Personally, I run all my OH systems (I have three) on snapshot releases.

As for debug mode, in the karaf console, you would type:

log:set DEBUG org.openhab.binding.zwave

To get out of debug mode, you would type:

log:set INFO org.openhab.binding.zwave

You can read about the Karaf console here.

I switched to the snapshot version and it is showing up as VRCS4. Can you tell me when the updated database will be available?

Thank you for all your help.

That’s good news! :+1:

@chris does a binding update every few days. But, I think he’s on holiday right now so it may take a bit longer.

Once you update to the latest binding, you’ll need to delete the VRCS4 thing, then rediscover (i.e. no need to exclude/include the node).

I should get this done tonight if internet connections all run ok :wink:

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@RichDiedrich There is a new build available that should include this database change.

If you are on a recent snapshot release, you can update just the zwave binding as described in this post.

Make sure you delete the VRCS4 thing, then rediscover. It should then show up as a VRCZ4.

@mhilbush It is being added as a VRCZ4. When I configure the association on the device, it appears to take it, but when I go back in the configuration is gone. When I push a left side of the rocker on the device, it lights up all the LEDs, and the openHAB log shows: DownstairsHallPanelLeft_SceneNumber changed from 0 to 255. Then when I push the right side, it turns all the LEDs off and the log shows: DownstairsHallPanelLeft_SceneNumber changed from 255 to 0.

:+1:

I think this might be just a display issue in HABmin.

I’m not familiar with this device. Is this the behavior you expect?

@mhilbush It is a zone controller, so I would expect that once I configured the association groups, it would control those devices in that group. I activate the binding debug and this is what I am seeing in the log:

2018-09-23 09:46:17.027 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update received
2018-09-23 09:46:17.033 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set binding_cmdrepollperiod to 1500 (BigDecimal)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.056 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set group_4 to null (null)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.059 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Unknown association group 4
2018-09-23 09:46:17.061 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set action_failed to false (Boolean)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.062 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set action_remove to false (Boolean)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.064 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set group_1 to [node_3, node_2] (ArrayList)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.066 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Unknown association group 1
2018-09-23 09:46:17.067 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set binding_pollperiod to 86400 (BigDecimal)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.081 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Polling intialised at 86400 seconds - start in 39225600 milliseconds.
2018-09-23 09:46:17.083 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set group_3 to null (null)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.085 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Unknown association group 3
2018-09-23 09:46:17.087 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set group_2 to null (null)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.089 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Unknown association group 2
2018-09-23 09:46:17.091 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set action_heal to false (Boolean)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.093 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set nodename_name to null (null)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.095 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Error setting NodeNamingCommandClass name to invalid value null
2018-09-23 09:46:17.097 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set nodename_location to null (null)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.099 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Error setting NodeNamingCommandClass location to invalid value null
2018-09-23 09:46:17.101 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set node_id to 12 (BigDecimal)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.103 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE12: Configuration invalid node_id

I am new to this whole ZWave thing, but it looks like device is not being sent the correct data to do the association.

Can you post the contents of the node xml file for this device? The file is in the userdata/zwave directory, and will be of the form network_nnnnnnnn__node12.xml, where nnnnnnnn is the network ID

Please use code fences when posting. Code fences also are helpful when posting debug logs, like this:

2018-09-23 09:46:17.027 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update received
2018-09-23 09:46:17.033 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set binding_cmdrepollperiod to 1500 (BigDecimal)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.056 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set group_4 to null (null)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.059 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Unknown association group 4
2018-09-23 09:46:17.061 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set action_failed to false (Boolean)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.062 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set action_remove to false (Boolean)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.064 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set group_1 to [node_3, node_2] (ArrayList)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.066 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Unknown association group 1
2018-09-23 09:46:17.067 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set binding_pollperiod to 86400 (BigDecimal)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.081 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Polling intialised at 86400 seconds - start in 39225600 milliseconds.
2018-09-23 09:46:17.083 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set group_3 to null (null)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.085 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Unknown association group 3
2018-09-23 09:46:17.087 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Configuration update set group_2 to null (null)
2018-09-23 09:46:17.089 [DEBUG] [ding.zwave.handler.ZWaveThingHandler] - NODE 12: Unknown association group 2

@mhilbush I wasn’t seeing that node xml file, but now I am. It is working as expected so far.

Thank you for your help.

@mhilbush OK, now I am seeing something strange. I added another couple of the VRCZ4 controllers, and the XML files are not appearing. I can see the XML files for the first two, but am not seeing them for the new ones. Is there something that could cause a delay in the creation?

Wake the device up, check your manual for how to do that.

I think these are mains devices.

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The XML is created once the device has completed initialization. This can sometimes involve quite a few transactions between the binding and the device. For mains devices, this usually happens within a couple minutes. If there are problems communicating with the device, it could take longer.

Upps, you are right :sunglasses:

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