openHAB 3.0 Milestone 5 discussion

Hey guys, does anyone know where in the code was the change made to not post exposed items to openhab cloud?

I’m currently using a custom cloud instance but I’m not seeing any item state updates in the logs or tcpdump.

I’ve already reversed the pull that ignores item updates on the cloud instance so the omission is on OH3 side.

Hi,
OH3 M5 running quite well so far. Only questions I have is, where to put exec.whitelist for the exec binding. /etc/openhab/misc seems not to be the right place. Any advice?
Thanks, Marcel

I reconized a problem with Homematic devices. In the thing definition the configuration values are checked and with my HM_ES_TX_WM i get the following information


I fact 0,01 is the default value from Homematic.

@Dibbler42

Hmm this reminds me of something. I Have five ZWave Heltun thermostats running some of them showing the following.

The values are wrong but I cannot change them. Default for this values should be 30. According manual and I didn’t physically (on device) changed them. To what they currently show.

Hello,
I try to add the Amazon Account to M5.
Going to /amazonechocontrol/ will get me to Amazon Account Login.
When I enter I get to a page which ask me to login + captcha
Wenn I do also this I get to a page which tells me a request was send via SMS and Push to the Amazon App to approve the login.
After some second (regardsless if I confirm in the app) the page reload to the login again.
What I do wrong?

Hello
when you add a chanel to a KNX Device the Channel Identifier field accepts spaces.
You do not get any error - also when saving (but there you do also not get Thing updated).
When you the leave the Thing you will lose all changes.

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@smhaller @ysc

If this problen is not only a Homematic thing, them we have maybe a ui thing. Yannick could you give us a hint?

I’ve had the same experience, but I’ve been too busy playing with widgets and other M5 things to look into it.

Anyone else had this issue? Previous OH2.5 was setup correctly with this.

Hi,
After being absent from the openHAB scene for a few years (on account of running a home brew system based on MQTT, Node-RED, etc.) I am getting ready to dip my toe in the water again.

So far I have “installed” openHAB Release 3.0.0 M5 as a docker container, and I am playing around with it on the side to get a feel for the new concepts (my previous experience was with openHAB 2).

I must say my first impression was very good! I really like the way this is going.

I do have some observations, though, that I would like to share and hopefully get some feeback on.

The first two I feel may be some kind of error in the system, while the latter two are maybe more related to my lack of understanding of the concepts so far.

Observation 1

Main page (the one that you land on when accessing the Main UI)

At the bottom of the page, there are three tabs: Overview, Locations, Equipment and Properties

Unless I totally miss the point (no pun intended), these tabs are supposed to reflect the semantic model. In this case, I guess the “properties”-tab should be called “points”, or?

Observation 2

Aministration > Settings > Pages

I am unable to delete (remove) pages that I have created. When I select a page and click on Remove, I get a pop-up message saying “Removing page…” (or something similar) but this never disappears and consequently the UI is now blocked.

Observation 3

Aministration > Settings > Model

Is there a way to add a new top layer in the hiearchy? Let’s say I created my first location as House, and added sub-location for some floors, and then some rooms, etc. If I then reconsidered my concept,
and wanted to introduce a new top-level layer called “Indoor”, I don’t see a way to do this. Is this possible without recreating the entire model?

Similarily, if I wanted to move a sub-location (say a room) from one location to another location (say from the first floor to the second floor), is this possible? Disregarding the obvious fact that this would be a huge reconstruction project in my house, I think it could be a relevant thing to need to do while working on building up a model, :slight_smile:

Observation 4

Aministration > Settings > Items

It is not possible to chnage the name of an Item once it is created. This seems like a rather severe limitation of the system, and quite a deviation from what one was used to.
Is this a temporary shortcoming of the system, or something that will be kept as it is?

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I had the same issue with OH 2.5.
The only solution so far is to activate 2 factor authentication on your amazon acoount.
After that i didn’t have the problem anymore
see Release Candidate and Support: Amazon Echo Control Binding and Release Candidate and Support: Amazon Echo Control Binding

I’ll have a look at it later today, the validation on number parameters causes some problems.

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Just discovered that ZWave neither discovery nor inclusion works.
Even when I manually add a thing and “start scan”, nothing happens on ZWave level.
That would be a major bummer I’d think. Had to take OH down and use some 3rd party tool.

I opened an issue against openhab-addons but since @chris mentioned at times the OH3 binding is essentially unchanged vs the OH2 one, and I get no ZWave log output, I think the problem is rather with the GUI not correctly triggering that.
But I have no idea how to debug that.

ooh! I need to test that.
I know there were at least some binding changes. When I first tried OH3 the zwave binding interdered with astro. Chris quickly fixed that though.

Is anyone successfully using jdbc-mysql persistence? I posted here about my inability to get it working, but got no responses.

I have it running fine here. Don’t think I can be of any use solving your problem, but at least you know it’s not something globally general…

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Thanks. Good to know. I’ll keep hunting…

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@mstormi I have been using the Zwave binding without problems on OH3 since M1, currently on snapshot from a few days old.
Inclusion works fine here.
I am running OH3 as docker container in a Synology NAS.

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@chris @mstormi

Yep - same here with adding a Qubino. No luck.

EDIT: With M5-1 it works again. I just by chance had update of OH

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In MainUI there is a bug in “Add Items from Textual Definition”; when trying to import textual Items like Group:Number:Temperature:AVG below, the parser already gets sick when it encounters a second : colon symbol, (and I suppose it would be unhappy with the thrird colon too).

Group:Number:Temperature:AVG g_Upstairs_Temperature "Upstairs Temperature [%.1f %unit%]" <temperature>
Error: Syntax error at line 5 col 25:
  Group:Number:Temperature:
                          ^
Unexpected colon token: ":". Instead, I was expecting to see one of the following:

That one at least is easy to answer. Create an Indoor Group. Then go to your House Group and make it a member of the Indoor Group. You might need to do this from the Item’s page instead of the model page.

Same thing. Remove it from the first floor group and add it to the second floor group.

No, I think it’s always been the case that you can’t change the name of an Item. It appeared that you could do so, and you can still do so, with .items files because when a .items file is loaded, all the Items that were defined by the file are destroyed and then recreated when the file is loaded. So it’s really still working the way it always has. The problem is the Item name is the UUID for the Item. You can’t change a UUID once the entity is created generally.

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