Rules errors while system startup in 2.5.2-SNAPSHOT build 32: "cannot be resolved to an item or type" and [SOLVED] Max binding spamming logfile

rlkoshak · January 28, 2020, 10:54pm

You could try now.toString. That should work.

Celaeno1 · January 28, 2020, 11:33pm

Syntax is correct, but rule did not help.

rule "Startup"
when
    System started
then
    if (Weather_LastUpdate.state == NULL || Weather_LastUpdate.state == "") {
      Weather_LastUpdate.postUpdate(now.toString)
    }
end

Rule gets loaded during reload without any errors.

Still errors during system startup:

19:48:27.953 [ERROR] [untime.internal.engine.RuleEngineImpl] - Rule 'Records last windows EG update time': The name 'WindowsEG_LastUpdate' cannot be resolved to an item or type; line 395, column 14, length 20
19:48:27.955 [ERROR] [untime.internal.engine.RuleEngineImpl] - Rule 'Records last windows UG update time': The name 'WindowsUG_LastUpdate' cannot be resolved to an item or type; line 402, column 14, length 20 
19:48:18.569 [ERROR] [untime.internal.engine.RuleEngineImpl] - Rule 'Records last weather update time': The name 'Weather_LastUpdate' cannot be resolved to an item or type; line 417, column 14, length 18

rossko57 · January 29, 2020, 12:26am

I’m sure you’ve already checked that you have a xxx.items loaded message in your openhab.log at startup.
How long is that before xxx.rules loaded message?

Celaeno1 · January 29, 2020, 4:43am

Good idea. I’m going to check it asap.

Celaeno1 · January 29, 2020, 5:39am

2020-01-29 00:08:55.206 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model 'default.items'
2020-01-29 00:08:56.695 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model 'logging.persist'
2020-01-29 00:08:56.737 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model 'rrd4j.persist'
2020-01-29 00:08:57.362 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model 'default.sitemap'
2020-01-29 00:08:57.753 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model 'default.things'
2020-01-29 00:09:15.585 [INFO ] [el.core.internal.ModelRepositoryImpl] - Loading model 'default.rules'

About 20 seconds.

Better should use?

createTimer(now.plusSeconds(30)

csi_oh · January 29, 2020, 6:31am

Hi @Celaeno1,

we we’re in contact yesterday - in this topic I was given the advice there to clear the cache, resulting in the very same problems (names can’t be resolved, rules not working).

After restarting twice (as @rlkoshak mentioned here), everything was working fine again.

In addition to that, I’m doing the following for items that aren’t updated by bindings;

proxy.items

[...]
Switch Kueche_Rollo_Override "Küche Rollo Override" (gOverrides)
[...]

startup.rules

when
    System started
then
    [...]
    Kueche_Rollo_Override.postUpdate(OFF)
    [...]
end

KR
Chris

5iver · January 29, 2020, 6:47am

I had created an issue for this, thinking it was a good issue to resolve before the 2.5 release, but that didn’t happen and it was closed…

Here’s another issue that appears to be the same/related and is still open…

If anyone else is experiencing this, it would be helpful if you would comment in the latter issue.

Celaeno1 · January 29, 2020, 8:03am

I’m going to do further investigations, but not before this evening. Reloading the rules is a workarround in the meantime.

I also will investigate the spaming of logfile every few milliseconds:

20:01:22.549 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.527+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.546+0100
20:01:22.621 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.546+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.610+0100
20:01:22.651 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.610+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.616+0100
20:01:22.673 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.616+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.629+0100
20:01:22.674 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.629+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.630+0100
20:01:22.678 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.630+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.637+0100
20:01:22.679 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.637+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.638+0100
20:01:22.680 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:02.493+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.647+0100
20:01:22.681 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.638+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.648+0100
20:01:22.682 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.648+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.649+0100
20:01:22.683 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.647+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.650+0100
20:01:22.684 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.649+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.648+0100
20:01:22.686 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.648+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.649+0100
20:01:22.687 [INFO ] [smarthome.event.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-01-28T20:01:22.649+0100 to 2020-01-28T20:01:22.650+0100

I suspect that it is caused by one or more window shuttercontacts. They are all provided by the max binding.
Never had this issue before.

EDIT:
Maybe it has to do with this PR 6692?

@marcel_verpaalen Could this be? It’s only a guess…

rossko57 · January 29, 2020, 10:49am

You would hope that was plenty of time, but I guess not in reality.
I’d assume a Windows box would be more powerful than the usual Pi - this may be contributing to your view of the issue - multi-core processors would make this a more chaotic process than on a plodding Pi.

There’s some kind of tweak the Openabian guys use about file loading process, worth digging up.

I developed my first set of OH1 rules on a slow laptop - these failed when transferred to a more powerful desktop, all sorts of race conditions were exposed.

rlkoshak · January 29, 2020, 3:15pm

I’m not sure how well that approach will translate to a Windows machine. Essentially the systemd start script has some commands in it that move the .rules files out of the rules folder, sleeps for a bit and then moved them back. The sleep is long enough for everything else to finish loading before the Rules are loaded.

There really isn’t an equivalent to a systemd service file on Windows. Maybe one could do this in the start.bat file?

rossko57 · January 29, 2020, 3:57pm

I don’t know ; I run OH on windows myself without these troubles, but most likely a different fit of bindings etc. to most.

marcel_verpaalen · January 31, 2020, 7:41pm

The PR avoids some config updates (if the value is already there it does not do the config update)
Would not expect this behavior from it.

Celaeno1 · January 31, 2020, 8:34pm

Thanks for explanation. My max shutter contacts are in two groups (CLOSED/OPEN) named WindowsEG and WindowsUG. The last update (DateTime) comes from a rule (see above). When I stop max binding then the spaming of logfile stops. The rule run for nearly 3 years. Then rule engine must have been changed or made more restricted. The low battery states (ON/OFF) of the shutter contacts are in the same both groups.
Maybe that now is the problem?

EDIT: I’ve removed “low battery states (ON/OFF)” items from both groups, now. SAME problem.

Celaeno1 · February 1, 2020, 5:56pm

@marcel_verpaalen

So, today I found some time to do further investigations.

I’ve updated from 2.5.0-Snapshot, build 1762 to 2.5.2-Snapshot, build 36.

Again everthing is OK, but max binding again is spamming my logfile.

When I put an older version of max binding jar file into addons folder the spamming is over immediately:

279 x Active x  80 x 2.5.0.201911241910      x openHAB Add-ons :: Bundles :: MaxCube Binding

When I remove the jar from addons folder and install the new binding again, spamming beginns again.
.
.
Here again my config:
.
ITEMS:

Group:Contact:OR(OPEN, CLOSED)  WindowsEG   "Offene Fenster EG [(%d)]"          <contact>
Group:Contact:OR(OPEN, CLOSED)  WindowsUG   "Offene Fenster UG [(%d)]"          <contact>

Contact Window_GF_Corridor      "EG Windfang [MAP(de.map):%s]"   				(GF_Corridor, WindowsEG) { channel = "max:shuttercontact:LKFxxxxxxx:NEQxxxxxxx:contact_state" }
Contact Window_GF_Kitchen      	"EG Küche [MAP(de.map):%s]"   					(GF_Kitchen, WindowsEG) { channel = "max:shuttercontact:LKFxxxxxxx:NEQxxxxxxx:contact_state" }
Contact Window_C_Bed        	"UG Schlafzimmer [MAP(de.map):%s]"     			(C_Bed, WindowsUG) { channel = "max:shuttercontact:LKFxxxxxxx:NEQxxxxxxx:contact_state" }

DateTime WindowsEG_LastUpdate   "Offene Fenster EG: letzte Akt. [%1$ta %1$tR]" <time>
DateTime WindowsUG_LastUpdate   "Offene Fenster UG: letzte Akt. [%1$ta %1$tR]" <time>

.
RULES:

// Creates an item that stores the last update time of this item

rule "Records last windows EG update time"
	when
		Item WindowsEG received update
	then
		WindowsEG_LastUpdate.postUpdate(new DateTimeType())
end

rule "Records last windows UG update time"
	when
		Item WindowsUG received update
	then
		WindowsUG_LastUpdate.postUpdate(new DateTimeType())
end

.
LOG:

2020-02-01 17:54:08.166 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:53:31.878+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.101+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.168 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.101+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.102+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.169 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.102+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.104+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.171 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.104+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.105+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.172 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.105+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.106+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.173 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.106+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.108+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.174 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.108+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.101+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.175 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.101+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.102+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.176 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:53:31.878+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.104+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.178 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.102+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.105+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.179 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.105+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.106+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.180 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.106+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.102+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.181 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.102+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.103+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.182 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.103+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.104+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.299 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.104+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.106+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.301 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.106+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.107+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.303 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.107+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.108+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.312 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.108+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.107+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.314 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.107+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.108+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.316 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.108+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.109+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.318 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.109+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.111+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.328 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.111+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.112+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.330 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.104+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.111+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.464 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.111+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.110+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.465 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.112+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.114+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.467 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.114+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.116+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.469 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.116+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.113+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.470 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.113+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.115+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.471 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.115+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.116+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.741 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.110+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.116+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.743 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.116+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.117+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.744 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.117+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.118+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.745 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.118+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.120+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.746 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.120+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.121+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.748 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.116+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.122+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.749 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.122+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.123+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.750 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.121+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.117+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.751 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.117+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.118+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.753 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.118+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.119+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.754 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.119+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.120+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.755 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.120+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.121+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.757 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.121+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.122+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.758 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.122+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.123+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.759 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.123+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.124+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.760 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.123+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.125+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.761 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.125+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.127+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.762 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.127+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.125+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.764 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.125+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.127+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.765 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.127+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.128+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.766 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.124+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.129+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.767 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.128+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.130+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.768 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.130+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.131+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.769 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.131+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.132+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.770 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.132+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.133+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.820 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.133+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.134+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.822 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.129+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.136+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.823 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.136+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.137+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.824 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.134+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.138+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.826 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.138+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.139+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.828 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.139+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.128+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.829 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.137+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.129+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.831 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.128+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.130+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:08.833 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.130+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.132+0100
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2020-02-01 17:54:09.151 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.129+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.138+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:09.172 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.136+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.139+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:09.288 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.139+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.142+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:09.309 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.142+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.156+0100
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2020-02-01 17:54:09.329 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.138+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.141+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:09.334 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.112+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.142+0100
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2020-02-01 17:54:10.551 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.395+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.396+0100
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2020-02-01 17:54:10.580 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.394+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.397+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:10.582 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.398+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.399+0100
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2020-02-01 17:54:10.601 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.397+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.404+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:10.604 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.405+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.407+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:10.610 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.404+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.407+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:10.612 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsEG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.407+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.408+0100
2020-02-01 17:54:10.615 [vent.ItemStateChangedEvent] - WindowsUG_LastUpdate changed from 2020-02-01T17:54:08.407+0100 to 2020-02-01T17:54:08.408+0100
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Bruce_Osborne · February 1, 2020, 5:58pm

That sounds like a binding issue. This needs to be on GitHub.

Celaeno1 · February 1, 2020, 6:18pm

First of all, I want to rule out that it is a rules problem or another problem. It would be an advantage if someone else has the same problem with the max binding. Maybe someone else can retrace it on his system? Just copy my config… :-

marcel_verpaalen · February 1, 2020, 7:31pm

First remove your cube thing and let it be discovered again.
Than check your cube Refresh Interval, set it to 30 seconds or so (this should be standard).

Than suggest to enable the debugging of the max binding.
log:set DEBUG org.openhab.binding.max and check the log.

Check what is happening here. The updates should happen at each refresh (so 30 seconds if you set it refresh interval as above)

If it continues please PM me your log or paste it in Github.

Celaeno1 · February 1, 2020, 9:30pm

From DEBUG log I found out that:

The old binding always told: No changes for… (if there where no changes)

And the new binding is telling: Updating states for… (No matter if the state has changed)
.
.
.

I’ve changed my rules to:

rule "Records last windows EG update time"
	when
		Item WindowsEG changed
	then
		WindowsEG_LastUpdate.postUpdate(new DateTimeType())
end

rule "Records last windows UG update time"
	when
		Item WindowsUG changed
	then
		WindowsUG_LastUpdate.postUpdate(new DateTimeType())
end

It is running again!

Many thanks to @marcel_verpaalen

rossko57 · February 1, 2020, 9:42pm

But that just means you have only hidden the binding issuing Item updates every few milliseconds?

Celaeno1 · February 1, 2020, 9:48pm

The items get updated every 20 seconds with the actual state, no matter if they changed. My rule now fires if the states indeed have changed.

Log was flooded because 7 items were updated and they updated the group 7 times within a few miliseconds… After 20 seconds the same and so on…