Hi all.
New to openhab, just installed it on qnap server.
My home is a little complex, has some devices on zwave and zigbee via smart things. Some of them are on ZigBee via tuya, some are reflected via Google home via WiFi and etc
As a first step I am trying (without success) to bind smart things to openHAB. One of the steps requires device handler on smart things, but this option is no longer available. Smartthings is using now edge drivers instead.
Any solution on how to bing smart things?
I haven’t checked in on Smartthings in a long time, but it was always problematic.
Does your Smartthings hub support Matter? If so, you could try out the Matter binding that’s in alpha development, but has seen a ton of progress in the last few weeks. It would be really great to have someone test Smartthings with it.
I’m not sure where to point you in the ongoing discussion, so I’ll just point to the most recent post.
Zigbee-, zwave- and wifi-devices can usually be handled locally with openhab. You just need the zigbee and zwave dongles. Imho that’s the fun part of openhab to get rid of the annoying cloud stuff. Do you have any devices that can’t be handled locally?
Almost all of my devices can be handled locally. Any recommendations for dongles? I would like to connect them directly to my QNAP.
I guess that the dongles must be connected to the same hardware that runs ooenHAB. Any way to connect network dongles?
I use an 2652r (zzh) for years now, many use sonoff or aeotec. For zwave I don’t know. There used to be a combined stick too but it’s quite outdated. I read somewhere that a new combined one was offered now.
How about using hubitat or home assistant yellow as my primary hub instead of a usb dongle?
Will openhab will be able to control those?
Any pros/cons for USB vs external hub?
nooo, please don’t do that. With openhab you’ve got one of the best (the best 
) home automation hubs, that supports thousands of devices. If you add another (worse) one your whole system suffers. Openhab is designed to talk to your devices and provides hundreds of bindings for that. In general: Each additional layer brings points of failures, maintenance…
Hubitat: Less supported devices than openhab
Home Assistant yellow: Device without computing power. You have to add a Pi yourself. And why add a similar system to openhab?
My goal for my system was to get rid of all those nasty little boxes that consume energy and attention. I love that openhab controls everything.
Having said that if you’ve got zigbee devices that don’t follow the standard accurately I recommend to additionally use zigbee2mqtt (but that’s only software e.g. on the qnap) to connect those to openhab.
Convinced me 
Ordering ZigBee and zwave dongles and preparing a place in the garbage for my ST and Tuya hubs.
I guess that when HW will arrive the first setup will be a pain in the a$$, but I have you guys on this wonderful community.
Yeah, that’s why I suggested trying out the Matter binding first. If it works then it would be the most painless way to get your Zigbee/Z-Wave devices into OH to play around. For long-term use I’d definitely want to remove the SmartThings hub.
Good luck!
count on us. We will help as good as we can. But your right: Openhab on qnap (docker? proxmox?) might not be the easiest starting point. On a raspberry you can benefit from openhabian that provides support for common installations.
But yes, containers are gaining popularity here too.
I having hard time to find zwave dongle (eu standard) supported by openHAB
I have seen this one (Z-Wave Plus Long Range Zooz USB Dongle 800 (EU / UK version) – Vesternet) but I understand that 800 series are not supported.
Any ideas for a zwave dongle?
As far as I know I don’t think that ST can be connected as slave via matter.
If you have any idea how to do that I’ll be happy to learn.
according to the binding doc it really doesn’t matter which z-wave stick you choose (e.g. ZMEEUZB1)
The binding doc is here:
The ZST39 dongle appears to be supported.
Only caveat, and it applies equally to OH and Zwave-js is to upgrade the SDK. Note this from my Zwave-js-ui installation.
If your SmartThings device supports Matter (a big if, since I don’t know what you’re using), then there’s a decent chance it works with the Matter binding in development.
The strategy behind Matter is that everything connects over IPv6 using WiFi and Thread, and there’s no central “controller”. Your ST hub would simply join the Matter mesh, and then act as a gateway for your Zigbee/Z-Wave devices. Some folks have already done this with Amazon Alexa and Google/Nest devices.
In theory, this would also bring all of the control local…but that’s only a theory since I don’t know where Samsung/SmartThings is at with Matter integration.
I’m not involved in the development/testing, I’m just following along. If you’re interested in trying it out, I suggest reading through the discussion I linked to earlier (there’s also a readme) and then asking questions. But again, the first thing is to figure out if your ST hub can actually support Matter.
EDIT: Dan just published a new test binding, so I’ll link you directly to it.
Well. I did installed matter add-on after I’ve checked that ST supports matter (And its does).
Created Matter Bridge and used the matter-id to connect with ST, and at that point I got stucked where ST is waiting to matter handshake.
I can’t help you since I’m not involved in the testing. If you can’t find info in the readme, then I’d suggest jumping into the discussion thread. You might have similar issues to the folks who first attempted this with other Matter bridges.
and understand matter support in openHAB is very very alpha and very much a work in progress.
