These solutions seem to be work around were another controller was used to control a Hörmann garage door. not really a “Hörmann garage door” thing or item.
Which worries me. yes with a relay it’s possible to open and close, that should be then based on time like with rollershutters. which is something that is feasable also with an anel hut, yet then there is no way to know if the door is shut or not. nor does it has a safety feature to stop closing when the door notices danger.
I have this: https://ing-budde.de/?product=hm-knx
And it works perfect. You can control your garage door with knx, directly - no need for the uap1 adapterplatine.
Ok, you need to have a knx installation…
You get every state of the garagedoor. The biggest hörmann-opener (Hörmann SupraMatic E Garagentorantrieb Serie 3 BiSecur) has already built in sensors for the states open/closed/move.
I don’t know which Hörmann you own, but my device just reverses direction on every click on the button (either openHAB switch or Hörmann external switch or Hörmann remote).
Two little micro switches which make contact on open or closed state do the job for me.
That is a general problem when opening or closing a door remotely without watching it. One should never do that 
I don’t know which Hörmann you own,
I don’t own one yet, I’m trying to figure out what garage door to buy with the new garage we are building.
Two little micro switches
Say more what switches you are talking about?
That is a general problem when opening or closing a door remotely without watching it. One >should never do that
I disagree, a device should be safe by design.
It can be safe when we push the button and then a kid or a pet or anything can happen to make it no longer safe, with a good design we should be able to stop a garage door from closing.
I would recommend to buy the hörmann supramatic series 3 door engine (is “engine” the right word for this?).
There are already built in sensors for open/close and you can send a command up or down directly, not only a pushbutton without knowing, which direction will be next, when you don´t see the door.
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You could use Zwave relays along with Zwave sensors to monitor the up and down position.
Very Simple…
Check out how I set this up at my home.
Squid
Sorry I have no zwave in my setup.
- The passive house we have , gives wireless setup problems
- the garage is not in the house, it will be a seperate building, there will be a UTP connection, and electricity.
This year I installed in our garage
- operator “Hörmann SupraMatic P, Series 3”
- safety light barrier “Hörmann EL 101”
- interface “Hörmann UAP 1”
This setup is fully integrated within OH:
Available commands “open”, “close”, “toggle” and “venting”,
available status types “is open”, “is closed”, “on the move” and “somewhere stopped in the middle”.
The light barrier is wired straight to the designated terminal block within the SupraMatic and ensures safe operation. To use all the features offered by the “UAP 1” you have to connect 3 contacts and 4 relays triggered by a short pulse. So you need one more device for bridging the UAP 1 to OH. I’m using “HomeMatic wired” anyway and so I stuck to it.
@yves If you can’t use a wireless device but have LAN available - every simple “Arduino Ethernet” should do the job!
All stirred together in a virtual rollershutter item I faced the lack of a “moving garagedoor” within the garagedoor icon set, so here is my little artwork 
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Something like this, just place them in a location where they make physical contact with the door in open or closed position. If neither contact is closed, the door is moving. If neither contact is closed for more than a few seconds, the door got stuck:
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I’m using a lot of Anel Hut’s in our house, I guess i can use that one where you use a homematic device.
when you say "connect 3 contacts and 4 relays triggered by a short pulse. "
I assume this is all connected to your homematic?
so the statusses etc, are not given directly to any Hörmann api?
Afaik there is no Hörmann API.
Yes, the SupraMatic is wired to the UAP 1 by a bus cable (RS 485 Hörmann specific protocol). And the UAP 1 is hooked up to my HomeMatic stuff. UAP 1 is a just a hardware interface. Please refer to the schematic on page 3.
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Thanks.
I understand now how we can do this.
We visited today a supplier for hormann, yet when I look at the documentation we got, we don’t see a * interface “Hörmann UAP 1”
did you buy this with your garage door?
If i’m correct the safety light barrier “Hörmann EL 101” is standard part of a "Hörmann SupraMatic P, Series 3” or at least it seems to be part of it in Belgium.
is that also so for the UAP1?
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In germany the light barrier is included with supramatic p series 3 too. This is the only one, which has included sensors for opened, closed and so on… With other motors, you have to use reed contacts on your own. So i would always recommend the supramatic 3.
Uap1 is an extra, you can buy this from your dealer or from the internet.
Edit:
Maybe it would be cheaper to use my knx modul from ing. Budde, see one of my previous posts… You only need a knx ip interface or taspi with tpuart knx usb stick and the ing.budde modul.
I’m not looking for cheaper.
I prefer more reliable and something where I don’t have the risk to loose warranty for a rather expensive garage door.
the sensors for
- opened
- closed
I assume they can send “triggers” to openhab when their status change?
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If you use the knx modul, then yes. Otherwise with the uap1 you get simple inputs/outputs where you have to connect actors or binary inputs.
I agree, I have heard good things about the KNX module mentioned earlier in the thread. I use UAP1 as well, where you get the relevant contacts and you can use switches to control the door. At the end of the day, those are connected into my KNX system, so that I can control everything via openHAB using the KNX bus.
If the KNX module had been available at the time, i would have used that instead of using three channels on my switch actor and three binary inputs (to get the open, closed, air vent positions).
Cheers!
we don’t have knx in our system. Not against it, yet it sounds like UAP1 might also connect to an anel hut and then have that one send me open/close events.
Yes, it will work, too. But in my opinion, with the knx modul you have this way:
supramatic 3 --> hörmann-bus --> knx-modul --> openhab
So you have a digital way from start to end
With the uap1 you have the following:
supramatic 3 --> hörmann-bus --> uap1 --> analog inputs/outputs --> actors/binary inputs --> openhab
So you have a change from digital to analog signals and then back — this will work too, but in my eyes, its not the perfect way to do this.
If i’m correct the UAP1 has NO/NC outputs to gice the stat of the door (open or closed)
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