Unsure about installation procedures for Windows

Setup, Configuration and Use Installation
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you used the manual installation or the Choco installation method?
if manual: did you deploy the offline addons package also?

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Also have this problem with chocolate package installation, even when I try to shutdown the system. As the systems requires to shutdown the system before launching the update process, this is something like a deadlock.

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After exiting the console, I can launch the update process, but hae the following errors, maybe it helps…

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And finally it’s running despites all these errors, but what I find strange, is that by default, ALL Addons… bindings are installed by default, is this normal?

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no, it’s not
there is a problem with the Choco method. I wouldn’t use it to install OH2 on Win.
I would use the manual method for now

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Thanks for the advice. As I cannot see any Choco or Karaf like programs in Windows, what is the cleanest way to desinstall everything? Just delete C:\ProgramData\chocolatey ? Some registery to delete?
Can I let the Java like this? Do I have to delete something more? Thanks. Chris

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yes, just delete dirs and env variables

https://chocolatey.org/docs/uninstallation

You can leave Java as is and then use the manual installation method of OH2 on Win

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ok, thanks did manual installation and everything seems better now, they should maybe delete the Chocolatey installation chapter as it’s so simple to manual install!

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it’s better to leave the docs entry there and fix the Choco install package :slight_smile:

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One of the two really needs to be done. This is really wasting peoples time in it’s current form. Either remove the chocolate installation procedure (for now). Or fix the package ASAP.

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lol

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why is this funny? We are now guiding people into a non working solution

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funny is your style which looks like you are trying to give orders (that need to be executed ASAP also)
who exactly is “we” and what have you done or better, will do to support the community?
why don’t you get active and improve things instead of asking other people to do this?
(all theoretical questions, no real need to answer them… just act on them)

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That was not my intention. I am aware of how Open Source works and it was not intended as an order at all. By “we” I meant the enthusiastic OpenHab community in general. But in this case more specific people that have write access to this page:


If it was easy to edit I would have had no problem removing it myself (or at least put a disclaimer there).
And i think “we” should all try to make sure new people are welcomed to this community with a nice a nice experience (which I am trying to do here). And not with flawed instructions that give them a very bed first user experience.

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I had trouble getting openhab running on Windows as well. the documentation is not so great. I am a pretty good writer, I will be glad to pitch in writing docs

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That’s the spirit :slight_smile:

It’s not that hard. The first time will give you some small headache, but it will get easier with time :slight_smile:

Check:

  1. Documenting openHAB 2
  2. Documenting openHAB 2 - #153 by Dim

Ask in that thread anything you need on how to modify/edit/etc any part of Introduction | openHAB

Quick & Dirty:
0) Create a github account (if you don’t have one)

  1. Open an Issue on the proper github section describing the problem
  2. Edit the relevant page (it will create a fork in your github)
  3. Create a Pull Request to submit your improvement and mention that it closes the issue that you created on step 1 above

If it’s main website content:

  1. Issues · openhab/website · GitHub
  2. website/.vuepress/components/InstallInstructions.vue at main · openhab/website · GitHub

If it’s generic content:

  1. Issues · openhab/openhab-docs · GitHub
  2. openhab-docs/installation/windows.md at main · openhab/openhab-docs · GitHub

If it’s binding specific docs entry:
1a) Issues · openhab/openhab1-addons · GitHub
1b) Pull requests · openhab/openhab2-addons · GitHub

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A small update on this Windows story:

Ref: Chocolatey 2.3 installation procedure should not be recommended in it's current form · Issue #115 · openhab/website · GitHub

My comment there:

@bcurran3 : Can you update please the Choco package to remove the deployment steps for openhab-addons-2.3.0.kar ? Also: On a Win system with Oracle JRE 192 installed, your script did not detect it and started to install JRE 181 :slight_smile:

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Hi.

Please open a issue at:
https://github.com/bcurran3/ChocolateyPackages/issues for whatever changes are recommended.

I don’t know why the add-ons wouldn’t be wanted, but, sure, easy enough to remove. (Irony is I thought I was saving people time!)

Script installs OH, doesn’t check for or do anything with any flavors of Java; that’s OH’s job. :slight_smile: Package installs Oracle Java as a dependency as discussed and (officially?) decided on in another thread long ago.

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It’s not that they are not wanted. There is an issue with the addons kar (unrelated to your Choco packaging) that causes (serious) problems. See here: Offline Archive (addons.kar) installs all Add-Ons · Issue #729 · openhab/openhab-distro · GitHub

We should not include (for now) the addons kar in the deployment until the root cause is fixed.

Package disregards existing (newer) installation of JRE. It’s ok… no big problem.

I will open an issue, thanx.

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here you go: https://github.com/bcurran3/ChocolateyPackages/issues/50

Thanx for the Choco packaging by the way ! :slight_smile: