Busch-Jaeger Free@Home

Stephan-Prem · August 17, 2024, 9:11am

Hi everyone,
does it mean, when i updatet to OH4.2M3 i cannot use the kjoglums binding ?
Even when i dont use the UhA binding ?

Thx Stephan

laursen · August 17, 2024, 9:44am

No, you can, but you cannot use both.

Olafsc · August 17, 2024, 9:58am

hi - is this confirmed, did you successfully do it ? I thought 4.2 will require another recompile and we have not heared from @kjoglums in a long time and there was no 4.2 recompile of his binding (which I also happily use and shy from the work to move to another one for no added benefits to me )?

Olaf

laursen · August 17, 2024, 10:39am

No, I’m not using any of the bindings. My reply was in relation to the name conflict only.

Olafsc · August 17, 2024, 10:50am

thanks for clarifying. Has anyone run this successfully in 4.2 yet ? That would be a key information for us using it before daring an upgrade

ML1982 · August 17, 2024, 11:30am

Currently i’m using:
openHAB 4.2.0 - Release Build

And I still use both bindings, both are still installed from the addons folder.

openhabian@openhabian:/usr/share/openhab/addons $ ls -lah
total 422M
drwxrwxr-x 2 openhab    openhab 4.0K Jul 14 12:47 .
drwxrwxr-x 4 openhab    openhab 4.0K Jul 14 12:47 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 openhab    openhab 420M Jul  8 02:24 openhab-addons-4.2.0.kar
-rw-r--r-- 1 openhabian openhab 2.4M Aug 26  2023 org.openhab.binding.freeathome-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
-rw-r--r-- 1 openhabian openhab  87K Dec 23  2023 org.openhab.binding.freeathomesystem-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
-rw-r--r-- 1 openhab    openhab   70 Jul  8 02:23 README

It is hard for me to keep the two bindings separate here while reading the posts.
So I will do a little bit of documentation here:

@UhA binding: (ABB/Busch-Jäger free@home - official REST api)
org.openhab.binding.freeathomesystem-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
things view:

@kjoglums binding: (Busch-Jaeger Free@Home)
org.openhab.binding.freeathomesystem-4.0.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
things view:

here my add-on store:

I assume the left one is the @UhA binding in the add-on folder. And the right one, which is currently not installed, is the new binding that is integrated into OpenHab. The new “FreeAtHome Binding” is the successor of the @UhA binding, right?

So I can confirm that my current configuration is working. But what would happen if I installed the FreeAtHome Binding through the Add-On Store? Is it possible to run all three bindings at the same time? My ultimate goal would be to use only the new FreeAtHome Binding, but the migration would be easier if I used all three at the same time.

And there is still the problem, that the @UhA binding does not support all features from the @kjoglums binding. What is the correct place for the issues and feature requests?
Here:

or here:

lsiepel · August 17, 2024, 12:38pm

As the binding is official part of openHAB all bugs and requests should be made to the openHAB repository.

Stephan-Prem · August 18, 2024, 7:30am

Hi Olaf,
i updated to openhab 4.2.1 without problems (with kjoglums binding).
free@home is at 3.3.2.

ML1982 · August 18, 2024, 10:33am

I my case kjoglums is also running without problems with openHAB 4.2.0 - Release Build

But now I can answer my own question, I just tested it.

Installing the official integrated binding will screw up the whole system if you still have a manually installed binding from @kjoglums.

So the next days/weeks I check the issues on, https://github.com/andrasU/openhab-addons/issues that prevented me from switching completly to the @UhA binding.

@kjoglums if you read this, maybe you could provide/compile your binding under a new name. Testing and migrating would be easier for me.

ML1982 · August 25, 2024, 11:31am

here is on of the bugs, that prevents me from switching completly to the @UhA binding.

https://github.com/openhab/openhab-addons/issues/17329

ML1982 · August 31, 2024, 9:28am

And here three further issues

https://github.com/openhab/openhab-addons/issues/17353

https://github.com/openhab/openhab-addons/issues/17354

https://github.com/openhab/openhab-addons/issues/17355

rover1982 · December 17, 2024, 11:14am

Hi,
Is there a chance to reactivate this thread ? There a major problems with the new built in binding for openhab now:

Do you have also problems ?

ML1982 · December 18, 2024, 7:49pm

the @kjoglums binding still works without problems for me.

Stephan-Prem · December 22, 2024, 8:13am

For me also the @kjoglums binding works with OH 4.3.0 and f@h 3.4.1.

lsiepel · December 27, 2024, 9:42pm

https://github.com/openhab/openhab-addons/pull/17957

Will be in next patch release. Looks like more fixes are incoming. By @JankKeks

ML1982 · December 27, 2024, 9:53pm

This thread focuses on the binding by @kjoglums.

Fixes by @JankKeks have been applied to the other binding by @UhA (see: ABB Busch-Jaeger Free@Home Official REST API).

Previously, the bindings were named as follows:

@UhA binding: freeathomesystem
@kjoglums binding: freeathome

The bindings are implemented in completely different ways.

When the @UhA binding was added to the official marketplace, it was renamed to the exact same name as the @kjoglums binding.

Currently, I need to use both bindings because the @UhA binding doesn’t yet support all devices. However, I am working on improving this.

Additionally, I believe some users still rely on older versions of both bindings to avoid recreating their existing Things.

Sascha987 · July 30, 2025, 6:00am

Dears,

the binding by @kjoglums can be used in OH5 ?

I´ve an SysAP v1.

Thank you.

Stephan-Prem · August 2, 2025, 7:45am

Hi Sascha,

you cannot use this binding AND the official Rest API.
You have to decide for one.

On OH4.3.6 the Binding from @kjoglums works for me fine with sysap v1.

Sascha987 · August 2, 2025, 5:21pm

Hi,

ok clear but the binding could be used for OH 5?

I’m on OH 4 last version and I’m happy.

Stephan-Prem · August 2, 2025, 5:40pm

I dont know, i switched with OH5 to the official REST API.

I did this because there are still a Lot of Work and improvements in the official binding. Switching was no Big Deal, New Things must be linked with the old items.