I have a question regarding the sender ID of the FGW14-USB gateway, maybe anyone was still in touch with this. My understanding of the FGW14-USB is, that this gateway supports 127 unique sender IDs and for an actor like the FSR14-4x I would need 4 sender IDs (each output channel = one sender ID).
So therefore I have the chance to setup 127 different actors (Lights, Dimmers, Heating etc). Right now I’m planning the electrical installation of my house (hopefully build up by the end of this year) and at the moment I have about 80 actors and therefore sender IDs. I know there are some IDs left until 127 but, how knows what will happen…
So the question is, did anybody test a configuration with two FGW14-USB gateways to get more sender IDs? Or other gateways?
Hi @flysl88 ,
I am not sure about the Fwg14, but with the Fam14 you can also use id‘s above the 127. But for these id‘s there are no acknowledgement telegrams. But you can still use them for actors where you don’t need it.
If you need more than 127 id‘s with acknowledgement telegrams you need to build a second bus.
thanks for the hint with the FAM14. I will try it. As I said in my post above, I don’t think that I will need more than 127 ID’s but it would be good to know if it would work…
I guess thats wrong for the fgw14. As the device acts as a “real” gateway.
The fgw14 would pass any telegram form the bus to the connected device (openhab). Also it would send any telegram, regardless of the used ID, to the bus as it has no fixed internal ID range like other gateways (eg. USB 300 Stick).
I’ve tested this with FHEM and it worked. Unfortunately it’s blocked in openhab to use ID’s >127 as the limitation from other gateway are also applied here but that could be “fixed” by creating a special FGW gateway device without that limitation
that’s what Eltako’s top-quality support told me when I described some problems I had with other address ranges. They sent me information from their developers team.
Hi guys,
I am VERY happy to say, I got things Working with an fgw14-USB. I can control the first two FSR14 x4 with no Problems. Even the status gets updated when switched outside Openhab.
However, when I try to teach in the 9th or 10th Switch on the 3rd Actor (FSR14 x4) I get some wierd behavior. When I turn on the switch inside Openhab, it switches back to off, even if the light stays on.
I think I am doing something wrong with the Numbers, maybe. I am not doing anything different than the first 8times: Enocean ID 00000009, Sender ID 9, teachin via “LRN” on the FSR14.
Also tried with the 5th Actor (Enocean ID 00000017, Sender ID 17). When I look into PCT14, I can see the result of the teachin. It’s something with 11 at the end. Which totally confuses me. Must be this Hex-thing
Not really,
I just teached in a working ID (00000001, Sender ID 1). This works perfectly in the first Actor but not in the 5th Actor, starting with EnOcean ID 17-20.
I can switch the actor on/off but status is always going back to off in OpenHab. This is not the case, when I teach in this ID into the first Actors (ID 1-8).
There must be something wrong with the settings of the actor. I.e. not sending it’s state.
Edit: I set the Base ID of the FAM14 as Base ID of the Bridge (fgw14). Maybe this was wrong?
Oh man…
Somehow my status updates stopped working. Can´t figure out, why this is. Yesterday everything was working perfectly (cry). I can controll all things just fine (FSRs and FSBs).
FGW14 is on mode 6, FAM14 is on 7.
FGW14 is blinking green, then off for a sec, then green again.
just wanted to continue the discussion about the 127 ID Limit.
Now I have exactly this problem. I need 140 RS485 adresses. Regarding your post from last year, do you have an idea how to create the special FGW gateway without the 127 ID limitation?
Can someone help a newbie? I have built a small test bed like this:
Fam14 — fts14em —- fsr4x — fgw14-usb
I’m not sure my fts14em is working. Or I cabled it wrong. I’m having a hard time understanding the eltako documentation. It’s very minimal, not well explained. And any videos are all in German, not a language I can speak.
For this to work, I’d like to at least verify my cabling to the 14em is correct. Am I correct into assuming the built-in power supply on the fam should be directly connected to the wallswitch which then is cabled to an E+ and the E- connectors on the EM?
How can I test whether it’s actually a good one and not a faulty one? I bought it on Amazon so I don’t expect too much from that reseller… .
I am not really sure, what you want to achieve with the FTS14em here. You don’t need this to get the rest running.
I am very sure, you should NOT connect the wallswitch to the FAM14! The FAM has a built in 12V inverter that needs to be connected to a 230V power source. It has nothing to do with the wallswitch itself. The FAM is used mainly to recieve radio protocols from wireless Wallswitches like the FT55. And it is the busmaster for all Eltako devices that are connected via the bus -bridges.
The most basic Setup would be:
FAM14 - FGW14 USB connected to OH - FSR14.
The cables for the light needs to be connected to the FSR14. You should be able to get the light switched via openhab. See my tutorial.
However, one very important thing: Don’t connect a power outlet to the FSR14. At least not, if you plan to connect a power hungry device like a Hairdryer. Else you gonna burn your FSR. For Outlet you need the FSR14 2x!!!
I strongly recommend to get somebody professional to install your Eltako System. Depending on what is your plan, it can get very complicated.
Please stop installing the Eltako devices by yourself. The installation and wiring is well documented with examples. If you are not able to understand the diagrams, you should definitly not install the devices!
Eltako has all its documentation in English. Got to the Eltako home page, switch the language to English and all the provided material is available in English.
I want the FTS14EM because I have an existing Eltako setup in the house with the 12 series. All wall switches are monostable switches (toggles) which give a short 12V pulse to the teleruptor, which then switches the 240V either on or off.
But since I want to use openhab, I need a way to read the current status. I’ve built some circuits myself but they’re all too complex and error prone. Hence my idea to switch to Eltako’s 14 series.
The goal of the FTS14EM - as the documentation says - is to allow the existing switches to be connected to it, and let the FSR14s operate based on the inputs.
It should work, but I’m not getting any activity based on the EM. So either, I miscabled it (which I don’t think I am), or the unit is broken, but I’m not sure how to test it.
Is it possible to change the baud rate or have option (9600 or 58Kb)? If we are using ESP 2 FAM14 and FGW14, we have to set FGW14 in position 6 (58 kbaud). I want to test 9600 baud because we can get a longer distance.
Also, Is any limitations on how many Gateways connect? I tried with four and it is working. When adding another one, it can rx but it can not tx to the Panel.
just a short question, when pressing a button in my setting (either in the UI or a hardware wall switch) I observe a minor delay until e.g. the FSR14-4x responses to openhab.
For example I press a button then the light turns on immediately but in the log I see a slight delay, about 1 to 2 seconds. This results in when I turn the light within the UI on I need to wait this time period until I can turn it off again.
With other bindings (e.g. Shelly) there is no such delay, i can turn it of and on in a very quick sequence.
Normally this should not be a big factor, but i want to toggle a LED in a Wallswitch on and off with a rate of 1 second. So this is not possible because Openhab (or the Binding, or Eltako) needs to long for response of the Item state.
