Miele Cloud-binding

[BjoernLange (Björn Lange)]

First of all, a big thank you to everyone who tried out the binding and reported back over the weekend! We appreciate your feedback and are happy that most things are working smoothly (Friday deployments tend to blow things up ).

A general hint: Please note that we currently recommend to not use things-files for configuration for reasons outlined in the account configuration section in the documentation.

Now to your questions:

@ramack

Just now I am recognizing, that even though my devices and my openhab instance are in the same network it seem that I’d still have to use the cloud service from Miele to get the data into openhab, is that right?
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Is there a way to use the Miele binding without any registration and communication via external services?

@fabiradi

Maybe @BjoernLange could talk about if Miele will allow direct connections to appliances in the future and if that would even be possible at all (from a technical standpoint)?

@ramack

Do you mean that with the XGW3000 it would be possible to connect to the Miele appliances without any interaction with Miele’s cloud services not even registration?

With the Miele Cloud Binding it is only possible to communicate with appliances via the Miele cloud and a cloud account is required (see also @BertP’s first post). Local communication with appliances with Wi-Fi (and ZigBee) requires the XGW3000 gateway which can be controlled locally with the Miele@home Binding. If you are looking for a purely local solution, you should opt for this one. For further information about the supported devices and supported functionality, have a look at the corresponding binding documentation.

@Snowest

I was wondering what are the thoughts behinde this bindeing? Should it be a control binding or a remote binding.

@Snowest

Just for my understanding. Is it possible to change values with this cloud-binding?

The Miele 3rd party API is limited in terms of available control mechanisms. All channels thus support reading and only some can be set (see the list of available channels in the documentation for a complete overview).

@Snowest

What I mean is, now I can see how my Dishwasher (G7365) is configured. Wich is nice.
But I would like to to be able to remote control it. So I would like to change all programms. To set a spesific start time or a specific end time. Is this possible?

@Snowest

I have a miele dishwasher with powerdisk function. So it would be greate to choos the right program, set a start or end time and etc… Is this possible?

Selecting a program is currently only supported for robotic vacuum cleaners and planned for warming drawers. It is possible to start dishwashers, washing machines and dryers via the program_start_stop channel under some conditions:

• appliance is turned on
• program (including all additional options) is selected
• countdown timer is already started
• remote control is enabled

You could do the following: Manually select the program you want to run, set the countdown to the maximum value, enable remote control and then start the dishwasher earlier via the channel. We are aware that this is only a small subset of what you want to achieve.

Setting a start time is currently not implemented in the binding. Please submit separate feature requests for these functionalities but be aware that I cannot promise they will be implemented. Even if we implement setting the start time in the binding, a workflow like power on the appliance, select a program and start it will not be possible with the current feature set of the 3rd party API.

@Snowest

The power button is defined as string, but in my opinion it should be a switch. I change it to switch in sitemap but it did not work proparly.

Good point, maybe this should be changed or an additional switch channel should be introduced. Please open a bug report. For now, you can simulate a switch by defining an additional item and some rules that synchronize the status.

@jewesta

Sadly, our tumble dryer is three years old and therefore not supported. (Sounds like talking about a smartphone.) So there I’ve had to resort to the good old brute force power consumption “solution”.

What model of tumble dryer do you have? Which kind of communication module is used? Are the firmwares up-to-date?