Hello Friends, I require some assistance configuring Expiration Timers for a few Items controlling Z-Wave switches. I recently had to format my Raspberry Pi OS, so I took the opportunity to update my OpenHAB system to version 3.1 as a fresh install (building everything anew). The system is instal…

You just need the code for the then part as you have already coded the event of when changed from off to on in the UI. [image]

See [image] Expiration timer sometimes fails Permanently powered zwave device make periodic status reports. You won’t be able to use a long ‘expire’ directly, because the periodic update restarts the timing.

Thank you very much, @rossko57 , for pointing me to the cause of the problem :folded_hands: I’m sorry for not understanding the proper way to solve this issue, but could you explain how I should proceed? Do I need to create a separate rules file? What commands should I include in it?

Yes, use rules with a Timer. Your choice of rules language (except Blockly has no timing functions yet). Many examples in this forum.

Thanks. I’ll try it tomorrow :folded_hands::folded_hands:

You can still use the expire if you set up a virtual/dummy switch as it will not be affected by the z-wave updates. I use this method all the time. [image]

[image] ubeaut: You can still use the expire if you set up a virtual/dummy switch Also a great suggestion Here is a design pattern which explains the concept by our own illustrious Rich Koshak [image] Design Pattern: Unbound Item (aka Virtual Item) Tutorials & Example…

Thank you friends for the good advice. Can someone suggest how I should go about writing a script in the UI Rule creator? Previously, when I used OpenHAB 2.5.11 I had a rule file (in /etc/openhab2/rules) for automatically turning off the water boiler, but when I paste the full text I had in the fi…

I’m not sure because not using OH3 yet but I think in a UI create rule, you don’t put the ‘rule’ ‘when’ or ‘then’, you only paste into the script box the portion of the rule between then and end the UI takes care of the when part and rule name ect.

Or if you are comfortable using text rules, continue to use text rules. Paste the whole show into a xxx.rules file and stuff works as it did in OH2.

This worked. Thanks for the tip :slight_smile:

OpenHAB 3.1 expire command does not always work

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rossko57 (Rossko57) July 11, 2021, 7:19pm 17

Or learn how to use rules-managed Timers. They can be cancelled or rescheduled.