Which Smoke Detector (Groups, Notification, etc)

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I have 2 Popp smoke sensors which are grouped to show if an alarm is active on the main screen:

Group:Switch:OR(ON, OFF) gTest     "Rauchmelder [%s]"                                    <fire>   
Switch    POPP_Smoke_1_C          "Alarm Rauchmelder EG Flur [%s]"                    <fire>    (gTest)
Switch    POPP_Smoke_1_Sw         "Schalter Rauchmelder EG Flur [%s]"                           (gTest)
Switch    POPP_Smoke_2_C          "Alarm Rauchmelder Keller [%s]"                     <fire>    (gTest)

For some time now, the group does not work anymore (shows ‘-’).
The POPP_Smoke_1_C show “Untriggered”, not ON/OFF.
I have tried to change the group to

Group:Switch:OR(Triggered, Untriggered) gTest     "Rauchmelder [%s]"                                    <fire>

but that does not work - I get this log output:

2018-03-11 15:56:18.741 [WARN ] [arthome.core.items.dto.ItemDTOMapper] - State 'Triggered' is not valid for a group item with base type 'Switch'
2018-03-11 15:56:18.744 [ERROR] [arthome.core.items.dto.ItemDTOMapper] - Group function 'OR' requires two arguments. Using Equality instead.

Any ideas?

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Just a short follow up: After changing the battery of my POPP 4001 on February, 10th 2018 I today noticed that the battery is already empty again. So again just 4 months of battery life. The device is a joke but not usable for its designated purpose.
The POPP 009402 is neither a good choice: While the battery for the smoke detector is supposed to last 10 years, there is a separate small battery for the Z-Wave radio functions. This one also only lasts much shorter.

Does anybody know a Z-Wave smoke detector which supports wired power supply?

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With this i believe you can make the popp 004001 wired.

https://www.robbshop.nl/manufacturers/popp/popp-stroomadapter-voor-rookmelder-met-binnensirenefunctie

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Yeah. You should also be able to power it with a similarly spec’d 6W 12 VDC adapter. Here’s one that’s half the price 7.50 EUR on Amazon.

Or an 8W for even less.

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Hi guys - any new developments on the smoke detector side?
what’s recommended at the moment?

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I still CANNOT recommend the POPP 4001 detectors! On mine I removed the zwave boards and use them now only as simple single smoke detectors. With zwave the expensive lithium 9V batteries last only 9 months! I hope now this is much longer, but I loose all of the communication capabilities for which I bought them :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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That doesn’t sound good :frowning:
Are there any alternatives for “smart” smoke detectors?

I’d like to integrate them in OH, but I still didn’t find anything that seems to be worth it.

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Use kiddie smoke detectors they are wired though and there is kiddie module that has dry contacts for fire notifications