openHAB Google Assistant Integration v2.0

[Kim_Andersen]

@MDAR

Google only knows it’s own options for modes and those have to be mapped to our thermostats

This is, to my understanding, how it is.
And yes, you´ll then need to map Velbus Modes to Google modes, (just like you did). But I think you mapped them wrong.
This is just a wild guess, but based on your previous log, where I see openhab trying to send “heat” to your ThermostatMode, maybe you need to swap the commands? Like this:

[ modes="SAFE=off,NIGHT=eco,DAY=on,COMFORT=heat" , lang="en" , ordered=true ]

I´m a bit “handicaped” here, cause my Velbus setup is running on the Odroid, and my GA connection is running on my Rpi. And on my Rpi, I havn´t got true Thermostats with modes. So I cant test it directly, only through sitemaps, which is only half the test worthy
(And I need a 20meter USB cable to get the Velbus setup to my Rpi ).

Second, I have some issues understanding how come the Modes has been splitted into two items? (I think thats the Velbus binding doing this). I know Velbus panels can handle it. But I dont see how Google would be able to. And I fail to understand how Alexa can.

[MDAR (Stuart Hanlon, UK importer of Velbus hardware)]

@Kim_Andersen

[ modes="SAFE=off,NIGHT=eco,DAY=on,COMFORT=heat" , lang="en" , ordered=true ]

Indeed, I’ve tried all kinds of variations on that theme.

(I’ve just tried this {again} and it doesn’t make any difference )

I’m not sure if it is openHAB2 that does that mapping (so I would expect it to be operational as soon as the Item file is updated and accepted.)

Or if that information has to be synchronised with Google during a refresh.

@Kim_Andersen

I´m a bit “handicaped” here, cause my Velbus setup is running on the Odroid, and my GA connection is running on my Rpi

You could…

Add the Velbus binding to your RPi and use the Network Bridge to connect it to your Odroid.

(But why you haven’t simply restored your RPi configuration onto the Odroid I don’t know… it would be easy enough to add VelServ to your RPi is you wanted to isolate the Velbus kit)
Or you could poll the Odroid for Velbus Item values…

[Kim_Andersen]

@MDAR

I’m not sure if it is openHAB2 that does that mapping (so I would expect it to be operational as soon as the Item file is updated and accepted.

Or if that information has to be synchronised with Google during a refresh.

Openhab should do the mapping. Otherweise it makes no sense to me.
I always do syncronise whenever I have made any changes regarding GA.

@MDAR

Add the Velbus binding to your RPi and use the Network Bridge to connect it to your Odroid.

Ahmm… Sorry I havn´t thought about this before

It´s not that I wanted to isolated Velbus… Quite opposite infact… But I simply had this idea, I had to connect the Velbus USB module to the Rpi to get it to work

[MDAR (Stuart Hanlon, UK importer of Velbus hardware)]

@Kim_Andersen

But I simply had this idea, I had to connect the Velbus USB module to the Rpi to get it to work

I’ll PM you so we can get you up and running.
It’ll be a very quick process

[michikrug (Michael Krug)]

@MDAR

modes=“off=SAFE,eco=NIGHT,on=DAY,heat=COMFORT”

The modes config option needs to be set at the thermostat group and not on the mode child item!

lang="en" , ordered=true
Can be removed. Has no effect at all here.

[michikrug (Michael Krug)]

@Kim_Andersen

This is just a wild guess, but based on your previous log, where I see openhab trying to send “heat” to your ThermostatMode, maybe you need to swap the commands? Like this:

No. It was correct.

[michikrug (Michael Krug)]

Furthermore. I am still not sure if marziman has already published the version that included the modes features or if it just was merged into the master branch and stopped there…

[MDAR (Stuart Hanlon, UK importer of Velbus hardware)]

@michikrug

Furthermore. I am still not sure if marziman has already published the version that included the modes features or if it just was merged into the master branch and stopped there

That may explain it.

I did try putting the modes into the Group Item.

[struvusmaximus (Mark Stroeve)]

https://github.com/openhab/openhab-google-assistant/pull/136 Doesn’t seem to be deployed either?

[Kim_Andersen]

@michikrug

Furthermore. I am still not sure if marziman has already published the version that included the modes features or if it just was merged into the master branch and stopped there…

Hmm, could you perhaps speed this up, since the doc´s has been updated?

[michikrug (Michael Krug)]

I have no other or special contact to him than everybody else here.

[Kim_Andersen]

I see… Lets see if this will do any changes then…

In the mean time… I noticed you answered Stuart (MDAR), that the mode mapping should be applied to the Thermostat group… Is this correct? According to the doc, it should be added to the ga="thermostatMode"

(Mandatory) Mode: Number (Zwave THERMOSTAT_MODE Format) or String (off, heat, cool, on, ...). { ga="thermostatMode" }

@MARZIMA
If you have deployed the new Mode mapping for thermostat, then it doesnt work.
If you havnt deployed it yet, could you please do so, or at least remove it from the doc.

[MDAR (Stuart Hanlon, UK importer of Velbus hardware)]

@Kim_Andersen

that the mode mapping should be applied to the Thermostat group

If you read this very slowly, it is very clear

to custom ones for your specific setup, you can use the modes config option on the thermostat group

I missed it many times

[Kim_Andersen]

@MDAR

If you read this very slowly, it is very clear

Arrgh, You´re right
I guess the mandatory setting in the example is meant for zwave thermostat (numbering).

@MDAR

I missed it many times

Not only did I miss it… I totally misunderstood

[rlkoshak (Rich Koshak)]

Since at least two of you found the docs confusing on this point, I’m sure any ideas you have to make them more clear would be greatly appreciated. I doubt you are the only ones.

[Kim_Andersen]

I agree…
My suggstion is Thermostat examples (working examples ofcouse ), is whats really missing.

[MDAR (Stuart Hanlon, UK importer of Velbus hardware)]

So are we all in agreement that this would work, when the modes option is up and running?

	Group MiddleBedroomGP2_Thermostat	"Middle Bedroom"																																				{ ga="Thermostat" [roomHint="Middle Bedroom" , modes="off=SAFE,eco=NIGHT,on=DAY,heat=COMFORT" ]    , alexa="Endpoint.Thermostat" }
	Number MiddleBedroomGP2_CurrentTemperature 			"Middle Bedroom Current Temperature" 			( MiddleBedroomGP2_Thermostat ,WholeHouse_CurrentTemperature		)							{ channel="velbus:vmbgp2:VelbusNetworkBridge:17:input#CH9", 								ga="thermostatTemperatureAmbient" ,		 alexa="TemperatureSensor.temperature" }
	Number MiddleBedroomGP2_CurrentTargetTemperature 	"Middle Bedroom Current Target Temperature"		( MiddleBedroomGP2_Thermostat ,WholeHouse_CurrentTargetTemperature	)							{ channel="velbus:vmbgp2:VelbusNetworkBridge:17:thermostat#CURRENTTEMPERATURESETPOINT",		ga="thermostatTemperatureSetpoint",		 alexa="ThermostatController.targetSetpoint"}
	String MiddleBedroomGP2_ThermostatMode 				"Middle Bedroom Thermostat mode"	  	 		( MiddleBedroomGP2_Thermostat	)																{ channel="velbus:vmbgp2:VelbusNetworkBridge:17:thermostat#MODE", 							ga="thermostatMode"  ,					 alexa="ModeController.mode" [friendlyNames="@Setting.Preset", supportedModes="SAFE=Safe,NIGHT=Night,DAY=Day,COMFORT=Comfort"]}
	String MiddleBedroomGP2_ThermostatOperatingMode 	"Middle Bedroom Thermostat operating mode"		( MiddleBedroomGP2_Thermostat )																	{ channel="velbus:vmbgp2:VelbusNetworkBridge:17:thermostat#OPERATINGMODE"	,														alexa="ThermostatController.thermostatMode" [COOL="COOLING",HEAT="HEATING"]	}

P.S.
I don’t think the roomHint is working either.

I’m quite happy to take a look at the docs and add a few full examples, once it’s all up and running (so I can test that what I’m suggesting actually works)

[Kim_Andersen]

@MDAR

So are we all in agreement that this would work, when the modes option is up and running?

That looks like the way it is meant to be. I guess @michikrug can confirm.
When @MARZIMA can confirm the feature has been deployed, its time to change (optimize) the docs, or bug fixing

[kovacsi2899]

I changed to new metadata version last year. Also I could configure my aircon as a thermostat and now I can control. But it would be good if I can change modes and configure other things as well. Plus can we use this connection with Google locally somehow? I do not need full description, but if it is possible and I can get some hints I would be very grateful. Than I can do it by myself.

[Sharath_B_Krishna]

Just wanted to ask if there ever will be a generic string or numeric item controllable via google assistant. like i expose a string item to openhab and be able to set it to anything via google assistant .

This is similar to what ifttt does…trigger based of google assistant telling cum