The last part (major) of my journey is my plug sockets and i wanted to share this for other uk enthusiasts
Been searching and searching and all roads led back to lightwaverf or Den sockets.
Lightwaverf Dont do local control - not good
Den are a new outfit, very expensive and not willing to take the risk based on financial data.
So yesterday whilst searching for some downlights to take my phillips hue bulbs i discovered these, and theyve only been in the uk 3-4 months apparently but are a big supplier and supported by all my wholesalers.
Yes they are the ones. Look very promising.
Although alot of their gear has been integrated into smart things the sockets donât look like they have yet. Iâm a little unsure if they can communicate directly with the smartthings hub with the built in zigbee or whether they still need their own hub. Im a zwave user so dont know too much about zigbee other than there are LL and HA protocols. Bit of advice here would be welcome as ill order a smartthings hub rather than their hub if need be as i can use for other bits then.
Oh and for reference, their hub is around ÂŁ99 and sockets ÂŁ50, dependant on supplier. So comes in cheaper than lightwave too.
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(Stuart Hanlon, UK importer of Velbus hardware)
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Iâd love to be able to help, unfortunately my knowledge of LightwaveRF / ZigBee / Z-Wave is minimal.
I can tell you that a prospective client (about 5 years ago) rejected my quote (due to inflexible building contractors) and paid to have LightwaveRF retrofitted into 5 properties, after the contractor completed a classic installation.
Of the 5 houses, NOT ONE has ever worked consistently since.
I have some lightwaverf gear (gen2) which there isnât currently any real support for on any platform. And I have also integrated it into openhab using the api and some creative rules which ive put uder the LightwaveRf binding updated topic. I just dont like âcloudâ products and dont want plugs sticking out everywhere. Iâve ordered the hub and 2 x sockets (3 day delivery) so ill update this once iâve tested and have a little feedback on them.
I have a good number of LightwaveRF products so I have a couple of comments:
The retrofit sockets do have local control as do the light switches (obviously!)
The plug-in socket adapters donât, but if you buy the three packs, the come with a remote control handset. If you want to be able to control without involving the hub or an app (which I agree is important) then you can.
I have just converted openHAB control of my LightwaveRF sockets and dimmers to RFXCOM rather than via the Lightwave hub because you can increase the transmission power if your devices sometimes donât âhearâ the command from the hub.
Reliability has been good. In 5 years Iâve only had one item fail. They are cheap - you can get three plug adapters and a remote handset for about ÂŁ32 and a retrofit double socket for around ÂŁ40.
Iâm much less impressed with the heating side of the range, particularly the TRVs, which I would definitely not recommend. The heating gear is 86MHz so isnât controllable through RFXCOM and unfortunately no longer works (since a Lightwave firmware change) with OpenHAB.
Hi Barny,
Have you managed to get your sockets to work, I use rfxcom and have many LWRF dimmers which work really well, but I just cant get the sockets to work, cant bind them.
I have both plug in and retrofit sockets working. I used text based config but there is a quick way to get the details to make it work in PaperUI.
You need to have the RFXCOM Bridge set up to receive AD/Lightwave messages and then trigger the socket with the LightwaveRF app, you should see a new Thing appear in the Inbox. You can then click on it to add it as a Thing and create a link to an item.
Thanks Barney
I take it you need the Lightwave rf bridge to use the app - i dont have that - just and rfxcom.
I usually make a thing and then put the LWRF device into pair mode and then flick the switch related to the thing on and then it binds but cant seem to do that as I have tried with Lighting 5 and Lighting 4 and it just does not seem to bind.
The bedroom light is a dimmer and the dining room socket is a socket (obvioulsy!)
These are the corresponding items:
Dimmer Master_Bedroom_dimmer âBedroom Light [%d %%]â (Lights) [âLightingâ] { channel=ârfxcom:lighting5:rfxcom:RfxBedroomLight:dimmingLevelâ }
Switch Dining_Lamp_Near âDining Room Lamp (near)â (Lights) { channel=ârfxcom:lighting5:rfxcom:RfxDiningSocketL:commandâ }
Iâm guessing it is down to the channel. The dimmer uses dimmingLevel but the sockets use command. I havenât created Things from PaperUI other than through the inbox and even then, I usually copy the details back to a text config file. I think the Lighting5 subType Lightwave things have all the channels, even if the device canât use them so you should find the command one in there. If you link an item of type Switch to that, it should work.
Interesting, Pretty much what I have done, just get the switch into learning mode and flick a switch, with all my dimmers its worked a treat - just not with this socket.
Will try again in the morning with a different channel & command but the on/off command should do it (worked with the dimmers).
Good to know its definitely Lighting 5!
Thanks
That would be grand if thatâs cool, Iâll hold off for a few weeks though, my house is very dusty and upside down atm where Iâve ripped the kitchen out. Should be finished by 3rd week of June though.
@delid4ve - I have similar requirements to you (re:open protocols and local control) and just came across this thread, on paper the sockets look perfect so I was wondering how are you getting on with them? and do they do 2-way communication?
I did consider these,
However WiFi 2.4ghz already crowded.
And no power monitoring.
The AOne (Aurora) ones I purchased also still have the major issue that after a power cut they default to the off state⊠not good when your fridge / freezer is plugged into it as I found out! £500 later
I wonder how your getting on with the AOne sockets? I suppose for the issue with the power cut maybe setup an automation to check the status of the socket and ensure its turned on and if not turn it on?