Beginners guide for implementing Eltako FSR14, FSB14, FUD14 via FGW14

You can sideload the EnOcean Binding from the 4.1 Snapshot. I am running on OH 4.0.2 with the 4.1. EnOcean Binding and everything works just fine.

Here you go:

There are several other bugs in 4.0.X related to temp and humidty reading.
The fix for it is available in Snapshot 4.1 which I am using. It’s absolute stable and working as expected.

Reffering to @laursen the 4.1 snapshot version should only work with 4.1 snapshot.
Or maybe only the fix is working in 4.1?

I don’t know whether the 4.1 snapshot version might work with 4.0, it depends on its dependencies. You can always give it a try and revert if it doesn’t work. 4.1 is very close to being released, so you might also just wait for that.

This is from step 2 (‘Preparation for pairing’). I assume (and hope) you mean ‘connect your PC to your FGW14-USB with a mini-USB cable’?

My electrician is coming over next week to install FGW14-USB and FSR14, but no FAM14. I figured that was not a required component, because it’s something wireless…?

The many three letter names confused me, and I didn’t notice ‘FAM14’ was described as a requirement… Is there a way to do it with just the FSR14 and the FGW14-USB?

Hey there,
I am not really an expert but I think, the FAM14 ist mandatory. The FAM14 not only acts as a wireless receiver but it also works as bus-master.
Can anybody confirm this? I am not sure but definitely I got a FAM14 :wink:

Maybe you should have a chat with Eltakos top customer service via Whatsapp. They can help you out.

That’s disappointing :upside_down_face:

But reading up, it looks like FTS14KS as an alternative also works…? Is a bit cheaper, it seems…

Mmm can’t seem to find how to get in touch with them… The Eltako site keeps redirecting me to the Belgian/Dutch site, where nothing WhatsApp related seems to be found…

Would you happen to have a link?

On the german website i can click on the little telephone and there i see a whatsapp contact.
https://www.eltako.com/de/

Anyway, i dont really understand your setup anyway. Why no FAM14? Do you plan to just use OH for switching your lights? No other sensors like these wall mounted EnOcean rockers?!

To be honest, I feel a bit over my head… The current setup is three ESR12Z-4DX-UC units (unfortunately spread over two fuse boxes). Most of the lights in our house are controlled by wall switches, connected via a DC bus with these ESR12Z-4DX-UC units.

My main goal is: I want to be able to control all lights via openHAB.

I figured the best way to do that was to have an electrician replace the ESR12Z-4DX-UC units by FSR14 units, and install one FGW14-USB unit per fusebox.

But I now fear that was not a wise (or at least an incomplete) plan.

Do you have a better suggestion? I would most certainly welcome it! :slight_smile:

Hey,
i am by FAR no electrician and though i can‘t recommend a specific setup. I dont even know, how these ESR12Z-4DX-UC boxes work. Are there wired connection between the switches and these boxes? The „Baureihe 14“ i.e. FSR14, FSB14 and so on are geared to work with wireless switches you can place where ever you want, as long as you stay within radio range to the FAM14. This is the main benefit of this system. But Eltako offers a lot of other stuff, too. I am pretty sure, these FSR14s are not working via a cable-connection to the wallswitch. So your switches would be obsolete and you will have to buy new ones with wireless.

There are other solutions from eltako. You could think about these actuators you can place behind a wired wallswitch.

But for my understanding your goal should be to get a fully self-running Eltako/EnOcean setup and THEN think about OpenHab.

Aha that is shocking news. I saw things too simplistic, it turns out.

Back to the drawing board!

(To be clear, there is a working Eltako system now, but no way (that I know of) to control it via openHAB. I’ve contacted Eltakos WhatsApp service :))

Would it be possible to use a wall switch just to send a signal to openHAB? I’m thinking of replacing the function of one of the switches to a movement sensor, leaving the switch without a goal. Maybe I could use it to trigger a (TBD) rule?

But maybe that’s something no-one here knows? :slight_smile:

Yes, this is absolutely possible and I have this running multiple times. It is a very nice way to connect your Eltakos to other smarthome devices.

I.e. I have an EnOcean wallswitch which is not teached into any Eltako aktuator. But it triggers a rule in OH which then opens the GarageDoor which is controlled via KNX.

All you have to do is add a new thing - EnOcean - Rocker Switch. Type in the EnOcean ID (you see it on the back of the switch), select your bridge and you are good to go

Great!

Now, my setup would be with the wired switches that are already installed, and I would use FTS14KS instead of FAM14.

In a different topic (EnOcean 2: FGW14-USB supported - #59 by dirkdirk), I read flysl88 has managed to set up his system with a FTS14KS. I’ll try asking him how that worked exactly. :slight_smile:

This project is moving slowly, as it’s a bit more cumbersome (and expensive :() than I had hoped.

But we’ll get there.

In the meantime, I discovered these videos:

In the first post is discribed how to “teach in” the channels via openHAB. But I assume it’s easier using the PCT14 software (as shown in the first and second videos), and only then connecting everything to openHAB?

Or would that not work for some reason?

Is that because it’s an FT55? Because that’s the only device listed in the binding documentation as rockerSwitch: EnOcean - Bindings | openHAB.

I’ve got physical switches, which would be ‘read’ by a FTS14EM, which isn’t mentioned in the documents. But I see it mentioned in this dicussion here and there. So I assume it’s possible to ‘read’ them in openHAB…?

Hey,
sorry, missed your last post with the videos. Haven’t watched them yet, don’t have the time :wink:

Yes, my wallswitches are FT55. It doesn’t matter if they are teached into anything else. You don’t even have to teach them into OH.
All you need to do is add a new EnOcean Thing - Rocker Switch Type and then type in the EnOcean ID which you find on the back of your switch.
Of course you need to have a working Bridge configured in OH. I.e. a Fam14 or USB300 stick. Still, I know nothing about the FTS14EM. I don’t know if this could work as a bridge.

Did you try this route?

It’s not the bridge, it’s the device that ‘reads’ the wired switches signals. The bridge would be FTS14KS, which should also work, as per community talks (Beginners guide for implementing Eltako FSR14, FSB14, FUD14 via FGW14 - #41 by ErikDB).

It’s only been an hour :wink:

You can setup everything with PCT14. I made an excel file for my setup where the addresses are calculated.
You can write the openhab IDs (gateway base id + address) into your enocean devices via PCT14 and then create the things in openhab with the associated IDs (Base id + address).
The teach in via Openhab is not necessary.

I use several FTS14EM with openhab. Not only for switches, for window and door contacts too.
This works without a problem because the EM just sends the messages into your bus like a normal wireless rocker switch would do it.